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2016 Hottest year eva!
My comment about President The Donald reading the Global Thermometer next year and saving the planet was deleted from The Guardian . Global warming topics are the only time I ever get comments deleted.
@esmiff @SaveOurLefty trading as @saveedmiliband
shows the way to escape comment deletion is lay on the a thick layer of sarc
The fact that T. May and her cabinet haven't tried to mend bridges with Trump might suggest that they're aware of a plan to derail Trump. Unless of course she's just too busy with Brexit, ahem.
OR maybe the media isn't telling us the full picture and Governments have been talking already about Trumps glorious 8 year reign? :)
Regards
Mailman
stewgreen
Very good ! I wouldn't have notice unless you told me. You can say anything you like about the spurned Wicked Witch of the West, but AGW mockery is verbotten !
My point is that what matters about global temperature is how it is defined, which rascal measures it and how it is announced to the public.
Trump looked like a little boy in the dentist's waiting room at the White House. He looks like he never wanted the job. According to the Podesta Wikileaks emails, his pals, the Clintons promoted him. Something went horribly wrong.
"Ted Cruz, Donald Trump, Ben Carson
We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to [take] them seriously.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/11/elevating-trump/
HAHAHAHHAHAHA...and then she lost :)
Mailman
IF you ignore the identifying labels (celeb, media, climate sceptic) and read Josh's cartoon right to left it could be interpreted as a Trump voter reacting to Trump rolling back on his pre-election statements and promises (expelling 11 million illegal migrants, repeal of Obamacare, locking up Clinton, building walls and the like).
‘Trump looked like a little boy in the dentist's waiting room at the White House. He looks like he never wanted the job.’
I think Trump wants the job. His discomfort may have been a bit more mundane. He visited the White House as Apprentice President, and you know what happens to Apprentices.
The initial dismay around Trump’s election wasn’t just the confounding of the pundits and elites, and the very real sea-change he represents, but also the uncertainty over the policies he will pursue as president.
Trump has a long to-do list for his first 100 days. But there’s a big difference between announcing stuff and actually seeing it though.
I’m no economist, but it looks like Trump will try to boost growth through tax cuts and infrastructure spending, deregulation of energy production, as well as reworking/abolishing trade deals. In other words, a combination of supply-side policies and deficit spending, with some protectionism.
The challenge will be to prevent a deficit/inflationary blowout leading to tighter money and future recession.
Pledges like the Mexican wall and repealing Obamacare could be achieved easily enough through smoke and mirrors.
I do not underestimate Trump. After all, every morning he single-handedly achieves a feat of engineering in constructing the arrangement on top of his head. Perhaps with the help of Melanoma. But they say he’s good at picking staff.
Brendan H. Almost disgraced myself when I read about "Melanoma". Perfectly placed at the end of an interesting and serious post (to do maximum damage).
ACK: 'Almost disgraced myself when I read about "Melanoma".'
Glad to be of service. At this time of year, in my part of the world, melanoma is top of mind. Scientists blame the hole in the ozone.
Speaking of empty spaces, I see that Donald Trump’s chief strategist, Steve Bannon, predicts that the years ahead will be ‘as exciting as the 1930s’.
OK, from an American perspective the 1930s might have been exciting, but not necessarily in a good way in all parts of the world.
He also likens himself to Thomas Cromwell. Does he know what happened to Cromwell?
The Bannon interview, if properly reported, sounds as if he were on speed, but its probably just the pure lust for power thats gone to his head. Suggesting a love of the "dark" and his likeness to Satan, Darth Vader and Dick Cheney (inadvertently (?) likening Cheney to the devil) sounds like madness, as does his claim that the Trump Administration will rebuild America's shipyards. Good luck with that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePUr23EsTkE
Probably the most absurd yet most damaging Irish Globalist is against American national sovereignty.... go figure.
She stated last year on Irish state radio that Pope Francis endorsements of the Climate change thingy gave it scientific legitimacy....
The UN world government is upon us.
It will lead to a "Expanse" (Sci fi series) like gross centralization of power on Earth.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hP4zmLHMjec
Jeff Sachs, the man who provided the intellectual weight behind the destruction of Russian living standards speaks.
Amy Goodman is so clearly a CIA asset.
She is a typical leftist.
The type the working and middleclass has no more faith in.
Now I hold different beliefs from the typical Trump regime supporter ( believing in the creation of a rich peasant class rather then a working and middle automan society) but people have been given only 2 choices
A globalist or a crypto fascist pathway.
They will chose the latter as their immediate survival depends on it.
Heh, BH, does Thomas Cromwell know what happened to him? I suspect he was much surprised.
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http://www.socred.org/index.php/blogs/view/the-flaw-in-the-circular-flow
Beppo Grillo in his latest Euronews interview talked of restarting circular flow economies.
This is classic social credit language.
He is very much a Italian regionalist rather then banking nation stater of Westphalia vintage given they came late to the game of typical French centralized Parsian regional destruction / nation building.
Again he talked of a common currency ( implying distributed ownership) rather then the single monopoly ownership model of the UK and EU dystopia.
It is very encouraging as at least he understands the meaning of the words which are often spoken but rarely understood.
Having said that the medieval vision of a borderless Europe with church spires and sleepy smokey villages stretching as far as the eye can see is a bit naive given the historical baggage of Westphalia.
The EU cannot be saved.
If you believe in the state then you must believe in defined borders.
This is Sparta and all that jazz.
However the UK is functioning (sort of) as a smaller older Eu.
It will continue to decay as Sterling much like the Euro is not a common currency.
It is used by all but now owned by all.
Thomas Mair sentenced to full life term in prison for the politically motivated murder of MP Jo Cox and quite rightly so.
David Attenborough and Micheal Sanford among others hailed as heroes for suggesting or attempting murdering U S President Elect Donald Trump.
For those who are unsure about Trump, check out his NYT interview full transcript:
The media is trying to find crumbs of comfort and is trying to sow discord before Trump even moves in. Re Hillary, why should he need to waste time and effort on a vendetta, losing was a severe punishment and the FBI are still checking the Clinton Foundation.
“Tom Friedman:
But are you going to take America out of the world’s lead of confronting climate change?
TRUMP: I’m looking at it very closely, Tom. I’ll tell you what. I have an open mind to it. We’re going to look very carefully. It’s one issue that’s interesting because there are few things where there’s more division than climate change. You don’t tend to hear this, but there are people on the other side of that issue who are, think, don’t even …
SULZBERGER: Well, since we’re living on an island, sir, I want to thank you for having an open mind. We saw what these storms are now doing, right? We’ve seen it personally. Straight up.
FRIEDMAN: But you have an open mind on this?
TRUMP: I do have an open mind. And we’ve had storms always, Arthur.
SULZBERGER: Not like this.
TRUMP: You know the hottest day ever was in 1890-something, 98. You know, you can make lots of cases for different views. I have a totally open mind.
JAMES BENNET, editorial page editor: When you say an open mind, you mean you’re just not sure whether human activity causes climate change? Do you think human activity is or isn’t connected?
TRUMP: I think right now … well, I think there is some connectivity. There is some, something. It depends on how much. It also depends on how much it’s going to cost our companies. You have to understand, our companies are noncompetitive right now.
We’re not a competitive nation with other nations anymore. We have to make ourselves competitive. We’re not competitive for a lot of reasons.
That’s becoming more and more of the reason.
….the wind is a very deceiving thing. First of all, we don’t make the windmills in the United States. They’re made in Germany and Japan. They’re made out of massive amounts of steel, which goes into the atmosphere, whether it’s in our country or not, it goes into the atmosphere. The windmills kill birds and the windmills need massive subsidies. In other words, we’re subsidizing wind mills all over this country. I mean, for the most part they don’t work. I don’t think they work at all without subsidy, and that bothers me, and they kill all the birds.”
The MSM of course, just pick the one phrase out of context that they seek for a comfort headline: "Trump softening stance on climate change..."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/us/politics/trump-new-york-times-interview-transcript.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=2&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%27s%20Today%20in%20Entertainment_now_2016-11-23%2006:57:23_ehayden&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_tie
The Farage thing was a lovely wind-up, he should make Farage US ambassador to the UK, he'll find the beer more to his liking.
Come on guys talk some sense about ambassadors. The US has no business interfering in the appointment of UK ambassadors. The British system is that our diplomats are not political appointments. The US Embassy is considered one of the most (if not the most) important and is given to our most experienced and trusted diplomats. Suggesting Farage is a joke, he is inexperienced and not trusted by the British Government. Trump can do as he wishes about appointing the US Ambassador to the Court of St. James, but if he is wise he will appoint a diplomat rather than an old crony. Inexperienced US ambassadors have caused both offence and problems (and in one case outright mirth) in the past.
Tony Blair
"I'm the insurgent who will keep us in the E U"
Shame Tony couldn't keep us out of Iraq.
ACK, What business did Obama have in coming here and telling us to vote "Remain"?
It's a bit like the second referendum that Farron wants where one of his options is "Remain" (all over again), the other "accept the useless government deal". If a second, why not a third, or fourth? The Remains are busily opening Pandora's box, and not only does it undermine the justice of the first (?) referendum, it undermines our whole democracy to his detriment as much as mine.
Obama interferes, and I didn't hear any Remainers say it was not right. So Trump now interferes. Put up with it, and accept that the Remains no longer have a leg to stand on.
Budgie. What on this blue earth has anything you are ranting about got to do with Britain's right to appoint its own ambassador? Trump's interference in this matter is an early indication of his inexperience. I hope for America's sake that he's a quick learner. Unfortunately those with experience are probably considered part of the "Washington Swamp" and any advice given by them considered suspect.
Do note that almost half the population that voted in the referendum probably did not consider Obama's comments as interference. Do you similarly decry comments by other Americans, by the IMF and the World Bank, by other EU leaders, by certain members of the Commonwealth and many others as interference? Should we have shut ourselves in a bubble and listened to no external advice?
ACK, don't go off the deep end just because someone disagrees with you.
Neither the USA nor Trump has interfered in the appointment of the UK's ambassador to the USA. It is not possible. If Trump has expressed a preference - and I don't trust the MSM to report it accurately anyway - it is just that. So it is no different in principle to Obama's preference that we stay in the EU.
Your statement: "almost half the population that voted in the referendum probably did not consider Obama's comments as interference" is imaginary and is merely a consensus fallacy.
Any one, or body, telling us how to vote who is not directly involved by living and voting in the UK is by definition irresponsible and their motives need close examination. The great and the good that you cite: IMF, World Bank, EU "leaders", and others like Goldman Sachs, BBC, etc push their own agenda, not necessarily to the UK's benefit, and it is wise to be aware of it.
Budgie. Almost half the population voted to remain and thus would, presumably, approved of Obama's comments. Or do only Leavers and Leaver votes count now? Obama did not tell us how to vote. He and many others warned of possible consequences. And some of those unwanted consequences are coming home to roost.
Of course other people have their own agenda, but sometimes interests are aligned, sometimes not. However most advice can from trading partners, people with whom we wish to do business with in the future. Deliberately breaking trade connections against the advice of our partners never has seemed to me to be sensible.
Obama's comments seem very insignificant compared with Trump's clumsy attempts to get his new UKIP buddy a plum job.
Nominations are now open for Climate Prat of the year 2016.
https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2016/11/26/the-pratties-2016-the-race-is-on/
Pointman
Nothing new here, move along, politics works on a system of favours 'you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours'. Drinks anyone or a Knighthood or a new job maybe or just get to the back of the queue. Same crap different day,
Pointman. Can I nominate myself? As things are going, I'll get lots of votes from BH. How much is the prizemoney? I could use it to set up my own solar panels and mini wind turbine, and rake in the subsidies.
Vote for me!!!
Ack,
An interesting point you just raised. There are lefties out there demanding the popular vote is used to determine the Presidency. Funny how these same people can't accept that the popular vote was used to confirm that the UK would be leaving the EU :)
Mailman
Mailman. For just a millisecond there I thought you were supporting my candidacy for "Climate Prat of the Year, 2016"
Anyone have an opinion on this ? Thanks.
How melting Arctic ice could cause uncontrollable climate change – video report
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/video/2016/nov/25/why-melting-arctic-ice-can-cause-uncontrollable-climate-change-video-report
ACK,
Just do what the Democrats do, vote and vote often even if it means digging up the dead! :)
Regards
Mailman