Discussion > The Moral and Intellectual Poverty of Climate Alarm
Those are not Watts' words. He wrote the bit starting 'A MUST READ! Wow....'
Phil Clarke
Those are not Watts' words. He wrote the bit starting 'A MUST READ! Wow....'
Apr 24, 2020 at 6:25 PM Phil Clarke
Mann has a hissy fit, Josh cartoons, WUWT does the rest
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/04/24/friday-funny-the-greennewdeal-implosion-captured-on-film/
Friday Funny – the #GreenNewDeal implosion, captured on film
Anthony Watts / 7 hours ago April 24, 2020
As we first reported here at WUWT three days ago, left-leaning filmmaker Michael Moore dropped a bomb on the left’s sacred cow of “renewables”. Meanwhile, serial ringmaster Michael Mann HAD a cow.
Josh provides the reality:
golf charlie
More on Climate Science's casualties
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/04/23/financiers-of-poverty-malnutrition-and-death-part-2/
"Private ‘philanthropic’ foundations keep African families destitute, malnourished, dying early
Paul Driessen
It’s easy to farm organically in the wealthy, advanced EU and USA, where consumers can afford much more expensive organic meats, eggs, fruits and vegetables. It’s much harder if you have to deal with the insects and crop diseases that plague African farmers on constant massive levels and locusts that bring true catastrophes every few decades – and then sell your meager crop yields to impoverished families.
That modern pesticides might save billions of dollars of crops every year and stop locusts before they can swarm by the tens of billions – or that bioengineered crops might feed more people, from less land, with less water, with greater resistance to insects, with less need for chemical pesticides (natural or manmade) – never seems to occur, or matter, to those who demand nothing but organic for Africa.
Many African farmers are women, who today have almost no “right to choose” when it comes to which crops they will plant. They labor sunup to sundown on mostly 2 to 5-acre plats, yet rarely have enough produce to feed their own families, much less sell for extra money. Millions live on a few dollars a day. "
golf charlie
Here's a short talk from a while back, but the arguments are still valid enough to stir you one way or another…
Radical Rodent
Less directly tragic than the actions described in the Driessen posts linked to by golf charlie above, the intellectual rot at the heart of CO2 Alarmism is upstream of such abuses. Thongchai Thailand continues to provide insights into it, e.g. the most recent post there contains these examples:
'Climate science is corrupted by activism. As an example, consider how the activism needs of researchers corrupt the interpretation of the statistical property of variance. In statistics, as in information theory, high variance implies uncertainty and therefore low information content. Uncertainty means our information lies somewhere between knowing and not knowing such that the higher the variance the less we know.
In this context high variance is undesirable because it degrades the information we can derive from the data. However, high variance also yields large confidence intervals that invite the confirmation bias of the researcher to interpret the portion of the interval that supports prior beliefs and activism needs. Thus, high variance can be interpreted not as uncertain information but as certainty of the danger of how extreme it could be. This anomalous understanding of variance is the norm in climate science where the word “could” is used and understood as certainty in the context of the precautionary principle.'
and
'This principle is pervasive in climate science such that it follows that the the truth of AGW climate change theory and it’s catastrophic impacts and consequences implicitly becomes the null hypothesis and the null hypothesis of the truth of climate catastrophe can be rejected only if convincing evidence can be provided by climate deniers against it. This methodology is claimed to be science although it is exactly the opposite of science.
It works exactly the other way around in science where the null hypothesis is the absence of the effects predicted by theory and it is necessary for empirical tests to provide convincing evidence against it so that the null can be rejected. It is only then that we can accept the alternate hypothesis that the proposed catastrophic AGW climate change theory is correct.'
Read the whole post here: https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/04/22/climate-science-uncertainty/
John Shade
https://350.org/response-planet-of-the-humans-documentary/
Phil Clarke
I remember 350.org followers painting their children blue and having them lurk about outside Sainsbury's supermarket with placards.....
tomo
Oh, dear – ever the victim, isn’t he, Mr Clarke? It would appear that whenever anyone stands up to his bullying tactics, he yet again becomes the victim. In a way, I pity him, in much the same way as I pity any who believe his brand of tosh.
Radical Rodent
tomo
Why the link to a 2014 article from microWatts? The annual report is online.
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I'm sure you can find someone in there to slime.....;-)
Phil Clarke
Slime ? - coming from a leading practitioner that's high praise of the sort I can't be bothered with.
The retreat into victimhood is as lame as it is predictable.
tomo
"In addition to individual donations, 350.org’s work in Fiscal Year 2018 was generously supported by the following foundations:
I'm sure you can find someone in there to slime.....;-)
Apr 27, 2020 at 11:58 AM Phil Clarke"
It is not about slime, it is about their financial liability should someone sue 350.org
golf charlie
A Fisking, or should I say an evisceration, of a truly pathetic but highly revealing article by a journalist at the CNN (aka Communist News Network) in which he pens a letter to his newly born son:
'On April 7, Bill Weir, CNN's chief climate correspondent, had a son. Weir wrote an open letter to his son telling him he was born into Hell on Earth, also known as the modern Western world. The letter perfectly encapsulates everything the left hates and wants to see destroyed.'
Read the Fisking to see what a feeble, perverted, melodramatic, brainless, unpleasant view of the world is held by this particular leftie jourmo, a 'Chief Climate Correspondent' no less:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/a_cnn_journalist_pens_a_fascinating_insight_into_the_lefts_dystopian_worldview.html
This Weir guy, like Greta, needs help. Badly.
John Shade
Below, in italics, are my summaries of many of Weir's pronouncements,
Sheesh. Translation: I take Weir's words and exaggerate them out of all proportion so I can make him look bad, so
Weir: I'm sorry we shortened the wings of the nightingale. becomes
Climate change is making nightingales have shorter wings, so they're all going to die because they can't migrate.
Which Weir never wrote and is a parody of the point he was making. Neither did he claim that the Great Barrier Reef is dying or describe Greta Thunberg as Joan of Arc as the American Thinker piece claims;and these are just two fabrications out of many.
Nor are the 'rebuttals' factual, relying for example on a tweet to back up the claim that Amazonian deforestation is lessening.
A Fisking is a point by point rebuttal. To do one you have to deal with the points made, not make up your own exaggerated version of the points so you can counter those instead.
Once again, a great example of intellectual poverty, do keep them coming.
Phil Clarke
Thanks Phil. The author of the piece I linked to does indeed do more than paraphrase or quote extracts from that disturbed and disturbing 'letter', and you are right to point this out. There was really no need for that author to help we readers see how awful the letter was by extrapolating from the links it gave to make conjectures as to the thinking of the letter-writer. The letter itself was testimony enough, backed up by the links it contains.
Here is another response to the letter which does indeed just give a few quotes from it: https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/business/joseph-vazquez/2020/04/27/headdesk-cnn-reporter-pens-insane-climate-change-letter. But that author can't bear too much of it:
'Stranger still, Weir managed to find the nuttiest of segues to tell his son later, “I hope you carry the same superpower” as climate activist Thunberg:
"The day I saw your face for the first time, I went from the ultrasound to a climate march led by Greta Thunberg. You'll be able to read volumes on how she was both canonized and demonized but back then she was just a girl the age of your sister, painfully shy when we met with that hand-painted Swedish protest sign tucked under one thin arm. But she was curious enough to digest those warnings from the scientists and honest enough to call out the arrogant ignorance and ignorant arrogance of all the grown-ups in charge."
Make it stop….'
[my italics].
That child was born into a hugely successful country, to well-off parents, and to a high probability of a great future. The corona virus is a big set back, but it looks like it will become more manageable, and the world can get back to being better than ever before.
John Shade
I would agree, pretty cringeworthy; becoming a parent does make you emotional, but there's no excuse for such an angst-ridden mawkish open letter to your newborn's future self. But what science he did include was based on the consensus.
And I think the Thunberg 'superpower' was a reference to this:
When haters go after your looks and differences, it means they have nowhere left to go. And then you know you’re winning! I have Aspergers and that means I’m sometimes a bit different from the norm. And - given the right circumstances- being different is a superpower.
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1167916177927991296
Phil Clarke
Scroll down to the M's
Phil Clarke
Academic gong collectors = science
Trofim Lysenko had a chest full.
fred
Apr 28, 2020 at 10:38 AM Phil Clarke
If you are taking your advice from St Greta, can she explain her devotion to Mann's Hockey Stick?
golf charlie
News Update.
Scroll down to the M's
Apr 28, 2020 at 10:41 AM Phil Clarke
Mann refuses to explain his own Hockey Stick so NAS reward him. What have the others failed to do?
golf charlie
I'm working on a blues song.
"I read a post by Phil Clarke,
I began to laugh,
Thought about it some more,
then I really had to barf."
I'll give Swamp Dogg a call.
Charly
Planet of the Humans. The reviews are in and they're not good…
From the Films for Action, a distributor:
When Planet of the Humans first came out, we added it to the site before watching it because we trusted Michael Moore's track record of releasing quality films that are factually accurate. After we watched it, we had issues with the film but assumed it was at least factually accurate, since Michael knows his films will be rigorously fact-checked.
While the film makes many important points, we are disheartened and dismayed to report that the film is also full of misinformation so much so that for half a day we removed the film from the site.
When Josh Fox first contacted us to discuss the problems with the film, we were initially convinced by his argument to "retract" the film, as a journalist would do for a misleading article. Ultimately, we decided to put it back up because we believe media literacy, critique and debate is the best solution to the misinformation in the film.
From <https://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/films-for-actions-statement-on-planet-of-the-humans/>
From Ketan Joshi:
The extreme oldness of this documentary stands out. In one instance, he tours a solar farm in Lansing, Michigan, in which a bemused official states that a large farm can only power ten homes in a year.It is the Cedar Street Solar Array, a 150 kilowatt 824 (that’s small) panel farm in downtown Lansing. Guess when that bad boy was built? 2008. Twelve years ago – an absolute eternity, in solar development years.
As PV Magazine writes, “The film reports on a solar installation in Michigan with PV panels rated at “just under 8 percent” conversion efficiency. It’s difficult to identify the brand of panel in the film (Abound?) — but that efficiency is from another solar era”. Efficiency gains in solar have been so rapid that by leaving the dates off his footage he is very actively deceiving the audience. The site generates 64-64 MWh a year, according to the owner – a more recent installation in the same area generates around 436. The footage really is from another era. It’s like doing a documentary on the uselessness of mobile phones but only examining the Motorola Ultrasleek.
From <https://ketanjoshi.co/2020/04/24/planet-of-the-humans-a-reheated-mess-of-lazy-old-myths/>
More reviews and roundups here:
https://climatecrocks.com/2020/04/25/moore-no-mas-new-film-drinks-the-lysol/
http://getenergysmartnow.com/2020/04/25/moores-boorish-planet-of-the-humans-an-annotated-collection/
Shorter version: full of errors, misleading and/or outdated misinformation.
Phil Clarke
"... full of errors, misleading and/or outdated misinformation.
Apr 30, 2020 at 12:08 PM Phil Clarke"
That's perfectably normal in Climate Science, achieves Peer Review and wins bogus Prizes.
golf charlie
seems like Moore's over the target....
Bit of Green on Green action make a pleasant change I have to say.
tomo
Apr 23, 2020 at 2:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke
Anthony Watts
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/04/22/earthday-epic-michael-moores-new-film-trashes-planet-saving-renewable-energy-full-movie-here/