"According to µwave, Spain were playing Italy actually inside the satellite, on a huge pitch with gravity inducers and a virtual crowds of holographic supporters. " TheBigYinJames

I did not say anything of the sort.

I am sorry if your lack of knowledge of phisycs results in your being embarrassed by what you have posted previously. Attributing things to me that I never said makes you look foolish and does not conceal your lack of understanding of the basic principles of em (electromagnetism aka Maxwell's equations).

µwave,

your hide your own lack of knowledge about physics with bluster and insults. It also hides from you the fact that I was being humorous when I said you thought the game was played inside the satellite, although I note in your reply you still haven't actually said how the radio signals got to the satellite in the first place through your cloak of invisibility which insulates us from space.

Not only do I understand Maxwell's equations, I used to be able to derive them from first principles, as this was a subject I studied extensively as part of my first degree many years ago, and it was an exam requirement that you be able to derive the equation. Not sure I could remember al the steps to the proof these days, though.

Your other classic put-down to geronimo about Rayleigh scattering being proof that EM was trapped by the reflective boundary of the atmosphere made me laugh. "Some people call this scattering", the poor deluded eejits.

You really need to give up all this blustering - you are showing yourself up as clueless.

But to mangle Obi Wan Kenobi... who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who argues with him?

TBYJ: I do, feel foolish that is, how gauche of me. Must be all those microwaves going through my brain.

Although having said all that, I think old miuwave has a little more to do on the hypothesis, there seem to be a few loose ends in it to me.

But over time, those loose ends combine in random ways and are responsible for all the warming.

TheBigYinJames - "your hide your own lack of knowledge about physics with bluster and insults."

Did I insult anyone? I don't recall doing so.

Yet it was *you* who gratuitously insulted geromino for not fully grasping the technicalities depite his honest efforts to do so. You clearly leave no stone unturned in seraching for affronts whilst at the same time handing out insults gratuitously.

"Not sure I could remember all the steps to the proof these days, though."

Ah - how very unfortunate.

I knew someone who claimed to be a mathematician and that he could derive Fermat's last theorem quite readily. But when I asked him demonstrate how to do so, he suddenly found he could not quite remember how he did it. No doubt you knew what a partial differential equation was but are perhaps not so sure that you still remember.

Harold W - it is clear that you have a much better grasp of phisycs than some other posters here. If you can find the error in your calculation (it should become apparent if you check your working carefully - most likely you will find you have used a cosine where a sine is required ) then you will soon understand how radio waves are trapped by total internal reflection.

I regret that my ongoing research requires my full involvement, so regretfully I cannot afford to spend any more time helping commenters here understand aspects of phisycs that their education has failed to equip them to do. I ascribe their difficulties to the so-called "duming down" of the education system.

A final insult and then off he goes.

Just a well really, it was like shooting fish in a barrel with that level of incompetence.

It always amazes me how people convince themselves of such drivel. The scary thing is that he has obviously read some physics, you don't just make up concepts like refraction. It's actually harder to come up with such an elaborate hypothesis based on a misunderstanding than simply reading and understanding reality.

If he thinks HaroldW made a mistake by switching cosine for sine, then that makes his calculation for critical angle at a hard air-vacuum boundary 1.4 degrees. No wonder he thinks nothing gets out, with that sort of astounding logic.

On a more philosophical note, I think it's every thinking sceptic's duty to call out these people, rather than having the rest of us characterised as like them. As science starts to head back in the direction of sanity,

I just noticed he misspelled "dumbing down". Hilarious.

" phisycs " and "duming down", I think he's having a laugh. He's one of those people who refer to themselves as "wind up merchants", or his case "wine dup merchents".

I blame Martin A

I actually think he was the author of the original page Martin referenced, come here to defend his good name. By insulting everyone.

Trapped heat, trapped microwaves. Clap trap.

How did you know it was me, Grandad?