The west has become lazy and world affairs have become just another fiction channel they can watch on TV, some of it might be interesting but none of it will affect me. History apparently does not inform people these days and no surprise there since the media is constantly rewriting history or airbrushing it out.
Those books sound interesting df but I am still failing to get BH to accept that Islam is worthy of their consideration.
Strangely enough; Islam and CAGW have quite similar effects on our government ^.^
Government denies that there is any threat from either issue changes British Law to accommodate both.

I made a small contribution to Mark Steyn's court case against Mann; well I mean if that is not a worthy cause then I do not know what is hehe.

On the main blog and within the 'Climatologists and Moral Choices' thread Richard Betts has commented on this discussion by stating that everything Big Yin says about me in here is correct. Much of what BYJ said was pathetic but he did not use bad language and is entitled to his opinion. However what does this say about Mr Betts?
In addition to the above Mr Betts stated "Godwin's Law Klaxon !!'

Very sorry but I had not heard of this before so I had to Google it.
"Godwin has argued that overuse of the Nazi comparison should be avoided as it waters down the impact of any valid usage. In its purest sense, the rule has more to do with completely losing one's sense of proportion". Apparently a reference to Godwin's Law is meant to end all discussion because somebody has overstepped acceptable bounds.
Very sorry Mr Betts but I did not make any comparisons with Hitler except in the sense that once he had decided to do something then arguing with him was a total waste of time.

@BYJ

Every post you have made in this discussion has two things in common; not one of them has attempted to answer the question in the Discussion Title and everyone of them has insulted me personally.
Your last post was no more and no less insulting than any other and like the others it made no attempt to answer my question, would you like to give it a shot Mr Yin?

Your last post did however set new standards in other areas ^.^. There is a certain group of people who religiously follow a particular maxim but so far only Richard Drake on BH has espoused that maxim. You believe that one should never use one word when ten words will fit into the available space (to gain full marks you should also maximise the syllables per word count).
Even though you do score highly on that last maxim; you do not seem to have understood that you need to be at least a little familiar with the meaning of all the words that you use and also weigh up whether or not they are appropriate to the particular subject under discussion.
If I may take one tiny point first; would you care to point out where this moron indicated that he did not like Muslims? Considering how many Muslims there are; I think that task is probably outside the bounds of my memory.
Credit should be given though for introducing us to the the concept of Radical Christians coming to a town near you very soon ^.^
You exhibit prescience in predicting that the 'huge divide' will impact us in the next century; silly me, I thought it was already here!
We will all stand in awe at your discovery that the huge divide is about us being led back to a faith led society which includes Islam and a huge swathe of Christianity but is not religious.

We also learn that science is the sole beacon of the enlightenment and therefore can not be allowed to fail.

My overall assessment of your post; sanctimonious horseshit.

Thanks for the entertainment James.

Bill

I am no student of religious history in the UK or anywhere else however your suggestion does not seem to make sense? The Disabilities act was, as far as I can understand it; part of the emancipation of the Roman Catholic Church and a removal of restrictions previously placed upon them.
There are no restrictions placed upon Muslims in the UK and in fact our government treats them unfairly only in the sense that they receive preferential treatment. In my humble opinion people of all religions who become British citizens should obey ALL our laws and should receive no special treatment.

BYJ

Have a nice day.

Bill

Ok I sort of agree with you. However the Muslims we have in the UK are here to stay so we need to get on better with them but we can not do that until and unless those Muslims accept our laws our courts and our education system. Our Muslims must also realise that in the UK no religion has any part to play in government. Sadly the political parties are too busy trying to attract votes to actually explain to Muslims what is acceptable and what is not.

bill

I apologise for whatever insults BYJ throws in your direction mate.

I know that the laws of our country are based in christianity and I totally believe that Christianity is a benevolent faith. I hope our government continues to be informed by Christian values. However that is very different from Christianity or Islam being an integral part of government, would you not agree?

OK I think I am not communicating very well and that actually we do, agree. Do you agree that the church (any church) should not be a part of government?

I know that quite a few BH people are at the very least considering voting UKIP at the election as I will be doing. In view of the general reaction to this thread you may need to think again.
This by Nigel Farage:
The crisis in the Mediterranean has shed light on the idea that there should be a common European migration and asylum policy that I believe poses a threat to our civilisation.
The EU has already agreed this policy and the UK will not be able to object within the EU.
The policy aims at 'sharing the burden' of saving the migrants fleeing from Africa by allowing them into our countries with no obvious filters able to remove threats like IS members.

I am forced to resurrect this thread by the actions of Michelle Obama today.

I was quite enjoying her speech and was ready to praise her as someone who was giving an inspiring talk to an audience of children from poor backgrounds. Then I heard the word "headscarves", then I clocked the fact that this was happening in Tower Hamlets.
So now I ask; why did the First Lady of the United States choose to visit an Islamic school in a constituency that only a few weeks ago was run by a corrupt Islamic cabal?