Tom Heaps prog on dangers of micro-fibres
It was a bit of a "fishing expedition for doom"
Scientist says waste water filtration removes 97% of microfibre plastics then the whole effluent ends up on farmland
"There is no proof it harms fish, but it might have subtle effects rather kill them"

3pm Radio 4 : Isle of Wight: Plastic Free?

Ian Marchant visits The Isle of Wight looking for a plastic-free future. He helps with a beach-clean, finds out what skateboarders and sailors can contribute and visits Afton Down. Here a mountain of trash was cleared from the site of the legendary 1970 pop festival, when 600,000 people descended on the island to hear Hendrix play.

Ian also meets Father Xavier from Quarr Abbey, who has a spiritual approach to the problem of sustainability.
( "Plastic Free" that' a mere buzzword, cos you wouldn't want to live without plastic protection for hygiene products etc, same as "carbon free")

Ah the prog didn't tackle that solar guy

But within seconds of starting the first woman was pooh poohing his dream of "plastic free"

Then half way through when he talking about the yachtclub regatta abandoning plastic bottled water in favour of refill stations ..he mentioned "100% plastic free again", the reply was .."well our yachts are mostly made of plastic"
.."Oh yeh, I'mm a bit of an idiot" he replied.

Guardian \\Alleged fraudster made €1m by 'recycling' bottles, German court hears//

Yes but I've heard of a similar cae about a year ago when people defrauded the machines by putting the same bottles through multiple times.

Impartiality means media stay separate from activists, so they can find fault with either side
But our lib establishment media in its metrobubbleworld is prone to going native
and it thinks that its strongly held beliefs are a universal good
and they jump on a crusade

One time was with Climate Change
and now the same is happening with plastics
Multiple events of media running "family lives plastic free for a week" items

Now on Monday night The BBC1 One Show devoted an entire edition to anti-plastic campaigning

That might be convincing to the maive
but on March 20th the prog had done a balloon release item ..where they relased hundreds of balloons in the atmosphere
...you nutters that is plastic pollution.

@BBCTheOneShow tweeted
Tonight, we're joined by @ChrisGPackham, @michaelgove and @lucysiegle as *we talk about a topic that is at the forefront of everyone's mind*, plastic.
Join us for a 'plastic special' at 7pm. #TheOneShow #MondayMotivation

* That's PR words cos plastic is not at the forefront of our minds

Times 'Wow student has invented the plasticless bottle'
..em we already have cardboard tetrapacks with minmal plastic
and can's tins
... since most of what's in the container is water , it would be easy to only sell concentrate to shops and they would add water into your cup at the shop.

That Shuckman article is fairly long , but tells us little.
Comments open at 5.30pm ad close at 8.30pm the next day
- That's only 27 hours
- Only 51 comments , people are harfly excited
- Progreen dream dominated and they down voted pragmatic people

Starts Tue 15 May 2018 11am 3 part radio series about plastics
Mark Miodownik sounded quite positive in the trailer.
..but I expect it will turn out to be the normal BBC green bad maths based propaganda

\\ One major area that needs an overhaul is recycling. *
In the UK only 10-20% of plastic collected is recycled.
We, and the rest of Europe tend to burn our waste for energy,
and plastic has a calorific value similar to that of coal.
But proponents of the circular economy say ..... needs ... reusing and recycling again and again//

* So the BBC assert that a particular policy needs implementing just cos "proponents of the circular economy say"
But it's not there job to tell us how to behave , the maths may not work out that way
e.g.burning plastic at final destination maybe more eco than collecting it all up from all parts of the UK and sending it back to the one factory in China.

FFS Radio 4 just had one prog What is the problem with plastic?
The Briefing Room
\\ Some 8 million tons of plastic end up in the oceans every year, where it can be lethal to marine life. (that's a maybe)
Governments and businesses have vowed to take action to curb it.
But Just how serious is the problem of plastic waste, and what can be done to tackle it?
with Susan Freinkel, author of 'Plastic: A Toxic Love Story'
Jan Piotrowski, environment correspondent for the Economist
Rob Opsomer, researcher, Ellen Macarthur Foundation

all anti-plastic people I guess

BBC Look North video item
The Plastic Free shop
It's just the barrel shop, without any plastic bags.

The problem in all enviro stories is creepage
Times story today talks of Mediterranean sperm whales being killed allegedly by plastic.
'Most found dead since 2001 were killed by plastic debris'
postmortems on 9 of 24 .... stomachs blocked by plastic'
hang on 9 out of 24 is not most ... and I expect there were other creepage steps.

Yorkshire Post has cutNpasted another NGO scare story in
"Half unaware of pollution from laundry"
44% do not realise that synthetic like nylon are released from clothing, when washed
.. poll for charity Hubbub
40% "did not realise"could end up in oceans
44% "did not realise"could end up in seafood

Then it moves to talking about another campaign group "A Plastic Planet" and their world campaign "World plastic free day"

That's the Unquantified Risk fallacy.
Stories about real risk contain real numbers, whereas doom-PR stories just contain vague hints.

Look every nature compound contains a small number of atoms that are radioactive.
So every food fire is pumping radiation into the air.
So we might well say "80% of the public unaware of pollution from woodburning"

(The context is that the quantity vs the dispersal factor makes the real world risk minimal)

I see the article doesn't appear in the online edition ..maybe it was just a page filler.

I meant "80% of the public unaware of RADIOACTIVE pollution from woodburning"

\\ UKWIN @UKWIN_Network Jul 16
UKWIN will be launching a report on incinerator pollution at the House of Lords tomorrow with cross-party support from MPs John Grogan (Labour), Philip Davies (Conservative) and Liberal Democrat Peer, Lord Tyler. The report will be made available at: http://ukwin.org.uk/bin/ //

The Times dutifully cutsNpastes

\\the industry used the excuse that there was no commercially available equipment to allow continuous monitoring of PM10 and PM2.5, different sizes of particulate. //

Then a good commenter adds info

I have worked (on or off) within the EfW industry for the last 10 years.

Plant emissions are monitored on a minute by minute basis to ensure that the stringent requirements of the European Waste Incineration Directive (WID) are complied with. All instances of failure must be reported and, if necessary, the plant must be shut down.

To ensure that these requirements are complied with sophisticated scubbers are employed to ensure that the following are not allowed to enter into the environment:
heavy metals, dioxins and furans, carbon monoxide, dust, volatile organic compunds, hydrogen chloride, hydrogen fluoride, sulphur dioxide as well as both nitrogen oxide and dioxide.

The ensuing "fly ash" (circa 3% of original mass) is then treated to ensure that it is chemically inert before final disposal.

Most plants that I have had experience of are consistently operating well within the set limits. "Studies" by anti EfW groups have generally been shown to be flawed in terms of methodology and conclusions. In particular, it is not helpful for The Times to quote an uncited report.

For anyone suffering from insomnia, the WID can be found here

Mon Oct 1st the Liz Bonin 90 min special aired on BBC 1
I quote ....
Sometimes the BBC are their own worst enemies, through sheer ineptitude and bias.
Watched the programme about plastic in the sea. Now personally i think it is a genuine problem which needs a decent airing. But the programme……….

Naturally the programme is used as a round the world jolly, so we start in Lord Howe Island, off the coast of Queensland. Nice if you can get it. We are treated to many examples of the presenter (female, non-white needless to say) emoting and looking shocked and forlorn at the contents of sheerwater birds’ stomachs. Ok, we got it from the start, you don’t need to keep on with the emoting.

Then its off to Indonesia to see a river of plastic floating on, well, a river. The problem (which I’ve seen in India for myself) is totally inadequate, often non-existent, refuse collection, due to local and national (usually emerging economies) government failings. But that is swiftly brushed aside and we are told the problem is down to those nasty private sector global brands selling products in sachets. Weird thing was, in all the coverage of plastic floating on water or submerged beneath it, there were no sachets to be seen.

So the programme is human interest driven, full of presenter emoting, and with the usual private sector targets.
What could have been useful is rendered useless with questionable credibility by the BBC’s insatiable bias and dreadful lefty agenda and editorialising.

Ben Pile tweeted the url of the BBC anti-plastic POLITICAL campaign page
https://www.ltwitter.com/clim8resistance/status/1046870703319015424