Discussion > Delingpole
"Has McCabe been charged with anything yet, a parking misdemeanour perhaps?"
"What a tremendously presidential act! Worthy of a Nixon"
Thanks for wearing your politics on your sleeve.
Clipe Sep 15, 2018 at 2:50 AM
"Thanks for wearing your politics on your sleeve."
That's quite all right, but I thought you knew, I've left enough clues.
I'm betting McCabe won't be charged (although, given the amount of venom about, who can tell?), he must know where all the squirrels are buried.
" .... he must know where all the squirrels are buried."
Sep 15, 2018 at 8:25 AM | Supertroll
In the US, they try to hide/bury spooks. In the UK, they try to hide/bury secret squirrels.
Russians don't care where in the world their former spys are, or who has to bury them. (they want everyone to know that)
Clipe Sep 15, 2018 at 2:50 AM
"Thanks for wearing your politics on your sleeve."
That's quite all right, but I thought you knew, I've left enough clues.
By 'your politics' I meant the politics of hatred for all things Trump.
I'm betting McCabe won't be charged
Copy.
re: McCabe
not much will happen before the mid-terms which will determine if the Democrats get a blocking position - if they don't - expect some fireworks.
"By 'your politics' I meant the politics of hatred for all things Trump."
As is commonplace, you over-exaggerate. Hatred requires effort and I don't waste that on people who I have had no dealings with. In the past Phil Jones might have been a candidate, but in the end wasn't worth it. I don't support Trump, and would refuse him access if he ever appeared at my front door. The more I read, the more I view him as a scumbag with morals of a vindictive toddler. This does not mean I disapprove of all his policies. I just disapprove of the man and fear his overconfidence in himself could bring ruin. If, in the future, it should transpire that Trump turns out to be Putin's Manchurian Candidate, I would not be too surprised.
AK, I think Putin's Manchurian candidate is Angela Merkel. Closes down nuclear because of Fukoshima, even though Germany has no issues with earthquakes and tsunamis; now we're looking at Nordstream 2. Massive importation of Islamic immigrants, some of whom turn out to be terrorists; consequently Germans at each other's throats and the rise of AfD. Dissension all over the EU as a further consequence, fences going up, Hungary and Poland elect right-wing governments, the Vizegrad group is at loggerheads with the EU. Refused to allow the EU to make any meaningful concessions to Cameron when he sought to re-negotiate Britain's membership, and Brexit ensued. The treatment of Greece during their financial crisis. I'm sure I could think of more if I tried, but that's enough to be going on with. If Putin wanted someone to destroy Europe's cohesion and energy supplies, and cause the potential collapse of the EU, he'd struggle to find anyone who's better for the role than Merkel.
"I just disapprove of the man and fear his overconfidence in himself could bring ruin. If, in the future, it should transpire that Trump turns out to be Putin's Manchurian Candidate, I would not be too surprised."
Sep 16, 2018 at 8:48 AM | Supertroll
If US voters had decided St Hillary was the better/lesser of the two candidates/evils, I would not have been surprised if she turned out to be Putin's Manchurian Candidate.
Sep 16, 2018 at 7:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson
Historians will not show Merkel kindness or respect, whether they believed in the EU or not. So far, with Green support, she has been Untouchable at home, abroad across the EU, and beyond.
Martin Selmayr seems to have taken over the EU Leadership, without ever being elected, and without risk of being removed democratically, much like Putin, and with a similar reputation for ruthlessness.
Y'no Gwen, a criticism of Trump does not always have to be accompanied by one of Clinton.
Sep 17, 2018 at 8:44 AM | Supertroll
Was there an alternative to Trump?
GolfCharlie. Trump won! You're still fighting an old battle!! There is no longer any need to.
Sep 18, 2018 at 6:01 AM | Supertroll
The media are trying to have the race result declared void.
Similar tactics being used over BREXIT.
Coincidence?
GolfCharlie
"The media are trying to have the [presidential] race result declared void".
How exactly is this supposed to happen?
There is zero chance.
If Trump were to topple, following an impeachment, Hillary would not be installed. She lost, the Republicans won, Trump won (just). Pense would take over and the USA would shift even more to the right but at least the man knows how to behave in polite society (sark).
Trump won (just).Minty – just…. by a landslide. Oh, yoo meks Oi larf…☺
Ravishing Rabbit. I do believe that more people voted for Clinton than for Trump (ie she won the popular vote) but Trump won significantly more electoral college votes. In most elections Clinton would have won the presidency but with the polarization of the electorate, she didn't. So I feel use of the word "just" was, and is, justified. This p!$$ed Trump off no end, resulting in his exaggeration of the size of the crowd at his inauguration and his claims that Democrats' rigged the vote (meaning he did win the popular vote as well). All confirming he was a poor winner. He just has to be bigger and better at everything.
Supertroll & Radical Rodent
imagine how big Trump's majority would have been, without the media against him.
Similar tactics being used over BREXIT.
Coincidence?
Spooky isn't it!
Pity Gwen you don't address questions posed to you and instead go off onto tangents trying to suggest links between media opposition to Brexit and Trump. Utter balderdash!!! Pity for your speculation that the majority of the UK media (except for the BBC) were pro Brexit or more or less neutral. I believe the opposition of Trump and the media was mutual, so speculating what might have happened if the media were supportive is fantasyland. Who's arguing the media are important anyway? I thought social media were more important and were both pro Trump and pro Brexit.
Not spooky.
Sep 18, 2018 at 4:54 PM | Supertroll
Their next opportunity via the Ballot Box to destabilise Trump and any Republican associated with him, comes in the November 2018 Mid-Term Elections. After the failure of the faked-up Steele Dodgy Dossier, this was (and still is) the next fall-back position of retreat, to defend and launch an offensive. Media Blitzkrieg attacks seem to make no impact on Trump, (if anything the reverse) and the media are not giving much publicity to the opinion polls.
The US Working Classes like getting back to work. This is something that progressives in the UK and EU had not thought about either.
Supertroll, bias is in the eye of the beholder. My take regarding media bias over Brexit is that while the print media (which matters less and less these days) had/continues to have a spread of opinions regarding Brexit, the TV channels were and continue to be rabidly ant-Brexit - BBC, Sky, ITV, Channel 4: all in my opinion anti-Brexit, while Russia Today just takes any opportunity to press whatever buttons it thinks will cause trouble. I'm not sure Al-Jazeera cares!
As for the papers, I would say Telegraph, Mail, Express are all pro-Brexit; while in the other camp are the Times, FT, Grauniad and "i" plus the Observer.
Taking the UK media as a whole, I would argue that the anti-Brexit forces dominate the debate (if such it can be described, given the one-sided nature of Project Fear 2.0).
ST
"I thought social media were more important and were both pro Trump and pro Brexit".
I'm not convinced by that - I think that most of the "problem" is down to unrealistic expectations based on self delusion colliding with electorates that aren't hearing sensible proposals from the incumbents. We've had years and years of politicians and media presuming to frame the agenda and paying no heed to the aspirations of actual voters.
The too-ing and fro-ing over US electoral colleges is simply redundant - both candidates (especially HRC) know how that system works and employ very high priced specialists to "work it". HRC seemed to do everything she could to insult and annoy the electorate and she possesses one of the most extraordinary tin ears in modern politics coupled to a shrillness that can be epic... and Obamah's glibness was wearing thinner by the day. DJT was pretty thick with NY Democrat nabobs for a long time......
In the UK Cameron's transparent remain partisanship was based in large part on the presumption that since everything was going swimmingly in Notting Hill, Oxfordshire, Ibiza and Newquay etc. that there was no need for change - boy did he misjudge the mood... .
bugger all to do with Delingpole - but Hilary has been on Twitter today - enjoy
Don't worry, the BBC is always here to remind us that we may not have to worry about such things, because of global warming. There is nothing it can't fix, squirrels included.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44461150