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UK climate change sceptics group is stronger than ever

By Ben Heubl

Published Tuesday, January 28, 2020

An E&T investigation reveals that a prominent British climate change sceptics group is taking advantage of a favourable political environment while strengthening its ties to international supporters and surviving an examination by the Charities Commission. Keen to engage in online climate change debate, the GWPF growing its influence in the engineering and technology sector too.

https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2020/01/top-uk-climate-change-sceptics-group-is-stronger-than-ever/

https://www.theiet.org/publishing/library-archives/the-iet-archives/iet-history/a-history-of-the-institution-of-engineering-and-technology/
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Julian Allwood, the current professor of engineering and the environment at the University of Cambridge, critiques Mike Kelly's GWPF Annual Lecture, with commentary from Bob Ward.

Short on substance and long on innuendo and concern over motivation.

Allwood cites the "law" as the driving need for net zero by 2050:
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The two men agree on the scale of the task: “[it] is absolutely enormous”.

“But [Kelly’s] conclusion is that it won’t happen,” says Allwood. “Our conclusion is there is the law that it has to happen. So, what needs to happen to get us there?” He says, electrifying everything, expanding renewables at the current rate, could offer 60 per cent of the electricity that we need. “There is no difficulty to imagine we could live well with that”.
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Allwood et al November 2019 report "Absolute Zero":

We have to cut our greenhouse gas emissions to zero by 2050: that’s what climate scientists tell us, it’s what social protesters are asking for and it’s now the law in the UK. But we aren’t on track. For twenty years we’ve been trying to solve the problem with new or breakthrough technologies that supply energy and allow industry to keep growing, so we don’t have to change our lifestyles. But although some exciting new technology options are being developed, it will take a long time to deploy them, and they won’t be operating at scale within thirty years.

etc

http://www.ukfires.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Absolute-Zero-online.pdf


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IET article copy paste:

Who could have imagined that climate change scepticism would see such a moment of revival – especially in the UK, with new net-zero legislation in place and youth pressure mounting? The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF) did. Patiently it waited for years for this moment. It seems there has never been a better time to insert its unscientific views into UK politics and the engineering sector. Last year’s annual lecture by the group was all about engineering. Its speaker argued that the UK’s commitment to reach net zero emissions by 2050 was beset by superficial thinking that ignores engineering reality.

With the appointment of a retired Cambridge engineering professor as a trustee last summer, GWPF made serious forays into tech and engineering. With substantial investments required to accommodate solutions to mitigate climate change, the sector could be receptive to its scepticism. But critics warn that without these investments the UK may not reach its net-zero emissions target stipulated in law. One fear is that viable solutions could tumble without policy support, especially those in early development.

Time is also critical. To limit warming to 1.5˚C above pre-industrial levels, emissions must be cut by 15 per cent a year every year, starting now, all the way to net zero. That is a tall order. Even 2˚C warming would see severe heat events grow 2.6 times worse. Under such conditions, plant and vertebrate species are expected to be lost, alongside many insect species and marine fisheries. Scientists warn that commitments to reduce emissions must triple to meet the 2˚C target.

Michael Joseph Kelly is the latest addition to the GWPF board of trustees and he arrived with a wealth of credentials and achievements. He was a professor of technology at the University of Cambridge from 2002-2016, had a spell as chief scientific advisor to the Department of Communities and Local Government and his awards include the Royal Society’s Hughes Medal in 2006. Kelly’s accession looks great on GWPF’s CV. Shortly after he joined, the group offered him the distinguished opportunity to give the 2019 annual lecture last November. He concluded his public debut with: “It is clear to me that, for the sake of the whole of mankind, we must stay with business as usual”.

E&T showed the document to Julian Allwood, the current professor of engineering and the environment at the University of Cambridge. The two know each other well but have little in common in their conclusions on climate change. Allwood told E&T that “GWPF’s peer-review is lacking substance”.

“He has written it in this iconoclastic I-am-telling-you-the-truth-don’t-believe-anyone else type of language, which is unhelpful”, he says.

On page 18 of the lecture document Kelly wrote: ”In the 1990s the global average surface temperature had been rising sharply for 15 years, and many predicted that this rate of warming would continue, when in fact it has halved. This lesson of history is regularly ignored as the current level of climate alarm is cranked up.”

Allwood says he is “always suspicious of these statements”. “If you chose your moment precisely, you could make the conclusion that Mike has made,” he says. “But not if you used the most recent data point.”

Allwood told E&T he disagrees with the conclusion of Kelly’s report but he would use similar statistics to those Kelly used. At the end of November, Allwood published a 60-page report on how to cut Britain’s emissions by 2050, with resource efficiency at the heart of the industrial strategy.
Global mean estimates based on land and ocean data

The two men agree on the scale of the task: “[it] is absolutely enormous”.

“But [Kelly’s] conclusion is that it won’t happen,” says Allwood. “Our conclusion is there is the law that it has to happen. So, what needs to happen to get us there?” He says, electrifying everything, expanding renewables at the current rate, could offer 60 per cent of the electricity that we need. “There is no difficulty to imagine we could live well with that”.

Kelly’s support of GWPF confuses Allwood: “It’s odd to me that Mike Kelly has aligned himself with them. He obviously is an intelligent person.” Kelly even proposed him to be a member of the Royal Academy of Engineering, Allwood says. “On this issue he set himself up as an iconoclast, which is potentially a dangerous thing to do”.

It seems organisations distance themselves from Kelly. After several attempts to contact Cambridge University about its stance on his GWPF lecture and his use of the Cambridge University logos on his presentation material, his Cambridge University profile went offline. The marketing team told E&T that views expressed are his own and “both current and retired academics have freedom to express [theirs]”.

In 2016 the Royal Society issued a statement in response to that year’s GWPF lecture stating ‘the idea that such worldwide agreement [Paris Agreement] is the result of a global conspiracy to suppress dissenting views by a nearly complete corruption of the well-established process of peer review does not strike us as reasonable.” But Kelly said in the interview he is ‘trying to get a meeting with the Royal Society’. When E&T contacted the organisation, they said no recent meetings were held with Kelly.

Kelly’s lecture came after a series of lectures delivered by other famous speakers. Former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott delivered his GWPF annual lecture in 2017. This January Abbott told a radio host “the world is in the grip of a climate cult”. In recent months, Australia has suffered some of the most catastrophic wildfires due to historic dry conditions. Abbott denied all arguments of carbon dioxide driving global warming.
Modified Copernicus Sentinel and Terra MODIS images about 2019/20 wildfires in Australia

With new trustees like Kelly, GWPF looks much stronger than before. Support from abroad provides additional uplift. GWPF is closely connected to America. One of the first online media that covered Kelly’s lecture was right-wing content website Breitbart News. Last year, Wikipedia downgraded Breitbart as an unreliable source for facts. Its coverage on Kelly led with: “The green energy targets being pursued by Britain’s main political parties are so impossibly deluded, fantastical and overambitious that they could only be achievable with the intervention of herds of magical unicorns”. In November, one week after giving his lecture at the Institution of Mechanical Engineers, Kelly agreed to an interview with E&T. Questioned on the coverage by the right-wing news outlet, he chuckled and said, “I rather liked it”.

GWPF’s ties to the US are important financially. Financial records prove the charity has never had more money in the bank than it had in 2018. The group still refuses to disclose where it get its funding from, saying this is to protect the privacy of donors. Kelly puts it this way: “if I was giving them [GWPF] fifty thousand pounds a year, I don’t want to have a whole lot of homeless people hanging outside my house saying give me the money”.

Benny Peiser, the director, told E&T in an email that “revealing personal financial information about individuals without their consent would be illegal under the Data Protection Act and the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR),” though when asked “whether he asked any of GWPF donors if it would be ok to reveal their identities” he pointed out that “quite a number of our donors have openly stated their support for the Foundation”.

E&T’s investigation revealed that substantial amounts did come from abroad. The Charity Commission responded to E&T’s freedom of information request. Funders from outside of the UK gave £29,073 in donations.

Bob Ward, policy and communications director at the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics, sees a problem in foreign unknown donors supporting the charity. He says it is not illegal but it has ethical issues when funders remain unknown.

In the interview, Kelly mentioned a potential donor in the US who “can see the high quality of the stuff”. The ‘stuff’ is GWPF publications, which are reviewed by a panel of what the group calls the ‘GWPF academic advisory council’. Almost every member of that council has a sceptical stance on climate change, some more radical than others. Most prominent examples include William Happer, a member until 2018. A Greenpeace investigation revealed Happer to have offered to write reports on the benefits of rising CO2 levels and coal in exchange for money.

Kelly claimed to E&T that the alleged donor from the US has pledged a “very large amount of money, each year, on the condition that ten of the publications, each year, get sent personally to every member of parliament, every member of the House of Lords , and every member of the [US] Senate, and every member of [US] Congress.” It was not possible for E&T to establish whether these claims were accurate. Ward said that UK civil servants did receive GWPF reports.

Peiser did not say whether this was true but told E&T that all donations for the Foundation (the charitable arm of GWPF) larger than £5,000 would be ‘vetted’ by GWPF’s board of trustees. Among the presently listed eleven trustees on the Charity Commission website this also includes Kelly and the current chairman Terence Charles Mordaunt, co-owner and chairman of Bristol Port. He recently gave generously to the official pro-Brexit campaign and most recent campaigns by Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt. He only recently moved from his former directorship position at The Global Warming Policy Forum (the lobbying arm) to being chairman at the Global Warming Policy Foundation.

Peiser also points out that GWPF would be unique among charities, “[because] we do not accept any donations from energy companies or anyone with a significant interest in an energy company”. Critics say this can not be verified because of a lack of transparency.

Ward says “essentially, what [GWPF] is doing here is having American money used to influence British policy. I think the average person on the street would consider it as a rather unreasonable thing.”

But Peiser points out that receiving money from abroad is something others do too. “Many hundreds of UK charities have American friends and donors and have set up non-for-profit organisations in the USA to support their charitable work, just like the GWPF”, he told E&T.

Another sign of close ties to funders outside the UK is the foundation of of ‘American Friends of the GWPF’. This is a group set up in April 2015 to help GWPF establish a lasting US presence. The US organisation enables US funders to take advantage of tax benefits. GWPF’s annual accounts revealed significant increases in expenditure for fundraising in 2018 of £52,000 versus only £4,380 a year earlier.

In other areas such as mainstream media the group also seems to be having more success in spreading its views. Despite setbacks - Kelly says Nigel Lawson, the founder of the group, is “now barred from giving comments to the BBC” – it engages more eagerly. In December, trustees were invited to a BBC Radio 4 programme. Both Ridley and Kelly were interviewed for the Today programme on 28 December. Charles Moore, another GWPF trustee, guest-edited the episode.

There are signs that further uplift for the group could come from three other directions. The internet is one of such sources. GWPF’s online influence is growing. GWPF has an online donation profile with Paypal, the US multinational online payments system operator. Supporters can make donations anonymously via a ‘donate via Paypal’ page. At the time of writing the page is still active. Paypal said it could not comment due to ‘customer confidentiality’.

The group’s strategy is now fully invested in online publications. And it seems to work. Ward says he believes [GWPF’s] newsletter goes out widely, including in Whitehall, because he is often asked by senior civil servants, who have received it and raised it with their colleagues, to verify or disprove statements. He says “they then say ‘one of my colleagues has seen this piece by Matt Ridley in the Telegraph, what do you say?’, and then I have to rebut it. I think [GWPF]’s model for disseminating propaganda in Whitehall works”.

GWPF is also using Twitter more often. From its official account the group posted around eight times a day in December and January. During the UK election campaign it tweeted messages like ‘don’t let the climate alarmists take our natural gas! All the major political parties at this election are planning to remove your gas boilers/cookers as part of their Net Zero plans ’. No party made such claims.

Data confirms GWPF became less active online with its lobbying arm, via a separate entity called the Global Warming Policy Forum and the respective website. E&T analysed posts published by the two GWPF websites. TheGWPF.org is the educational charity. TheGWPF.com represents the lobbying arm. GWPF set up the Forum after Bob Ward notified the Charity Commission in 2014 that it was in breach of Charity Commission rules. GWPF got away with a warning by creating the Forum to appease concerns by the regulator.
Number of online posts published on GWPF.com

The analysis by E&T confirms that the website of the charitable arm receives more attention. It published posts more frequently while performance for the lobbying site dropped. Alexa website online popularity ranking confirms those results, too.

Last March, the Charity commission published new guidelines for ‘charities with close links to non-charitable organisations’. There are signs that lines between GWPF’s Foundation, the charity, and the Forum, the lobbying organisation are blurry. Both organisations are based at 55 Tufton Street and share personnel. Both websites have the same mobile contact number. Peiser is wearing two hats, as a director at the lobbying arm and the charity. In his email response to E&T, Peiser’s email signature as director at the Global Warming Policy Foundation depicted the same contact number as for the lobbying organisation, the Forum.

Ward thinks GWPF is still in breach of Charity Commission rules and he sent a renewed warning to the UK public body last October. He gave several specific examples where GWPF’s reports were inaccurate and misleading on the science. To E&T, he says “all their output on the science is sceptical. They don’t publish mainstream science.” In his interview with E&T, Kelly said that he “no longer argues about the science of climate change”.

But over recent years the science of climate change remained a central theme. The online posts by the group confirm this. E&T analysed the text content of a sample of 240 online posts published by the TheGWPF.org website, the charity arm. Of those, 81 posts contained the word ‘science’. Among the more than 18,000 online posts by TheGWPF.com, the lobbying arm, more than 5,600 mentioned ‘science’.
Word analysis TheGWPF.com vs TheGWPF.org

One such example on GWPF.org is a post from 2019 where the Foundation calls on the withdrawal of a report published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), a peer-reviewed scientific journal, on the decline of insect populations in the rainforest in Puerto Rico. None of the four GWPF members who authored a letter to the editor of PNAS – including Benny Peiser, the director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation, Ridley, Paul Homewood and Andrew Montford – had ever published any research relating to this issue.

GWPF “only ever publishes information that appears to undermine the consensus on the causes and potential consequences of climate change,” Ward says. In his letter he concluded, “the foundation is seeking to systematically mislead the public, policymakers and the media with its publications, in violation of the Commission’s rules. Such actions also damage the reputation of the UK charity sector.” Three examples published on GWPF’s charity website illustrate Ward’s criticism on GWPF’s inaccuracy in publishing on science.

According to Ward’s analysis, Tony Abbott’s annual lecture in 2017 revealed a number of inaccurate and misleading claims. Abbott, who has no qualifications or expertise in climate science, said “it may be that a tipping point will be reached soon and that the world might start to warm rapidly but so far reality has stubbornly refused to conform to the IPCC’s computer modelling”. Ward says it is incorrect because “the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report in 2013 compared projections of changes in global mean surface temperature from previous assessments with observed temperatures and concluded that even though the projections from the models were never intended to be predictions over such a short timescale, the observations through 2012 generally fall within the projections made in all past assessments”.

Paul Homewood’s pamphlet from last year on ‘Tropical Hurricanes in the Age of Global Warming’ would also fall short. Homewood is a retired accountant and has no qualifications or training in climate-related science, Ward says. Homewood claims the increase in the frequency of strong hurricanes in the North Atlantic since 1970 is due to a natural cycle, the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) and “not linked to climate change”. In seeking to defend his claim Homewood would have “ignored much of the scientific literature on the issue and misrepresented the findings of those he did cite”. Ward said Homewood would have misrepresented both papers “through selective quotation that gave the false impression that they had ruled out the influence of climate change on the increase in the frequency of strong hurricanes in the North Atlantic”.

Another of Homewood posts claimed: “using the recently published UK Met Office’s State of the UK Climate 2018, along with other Met Office data, this paper examines UK climatic trends and assesses the truth of climate emergency claims”. Homewood concludes: “there is no evidence that weather has become more extreme”. According to Ward, Homewood had misrepresented the Met Office’s data and its work. At a different passage of Homewood’s text, Ward finds another issue. By stating evidence from a report by the National Climate Information Centre at the Met Office, Ward refutes Homewood’s assertion that there is no basis for the claim that “climate change causes more extreme rainfall, at least as far as the UK is concerned”.

E&T was told that the Charity Commission responded to Ward’s letter by saying it had decided that it does not intend to review the charity’s activities further at this time.

In GWPF’s official response to E&T, Peiser says that “the Charity Commission has fully rejected Mr Ward’s recent complaint about the Foundation and has written to Mr Ward accordingly.” But Ward objects to this explanation and says Peiser does not describe it accurately. In the last paragraph the Charity Commission wrote: “We do not have the resource or the expertise to examine the charity’s research reports to determine whether they are acceptable activity.”
Letter to Rob Ward by Charity Commission in response to warning

“It is a surprise that the Charity Commission believes it does not have the resource or expertise to investigate the reports published by the Global Warming Policy Foundation. Effectively, this means that the Commission is no longer able to uphold its own rules, and after being sanctioned in 2014 for breaches, the Foundation is now free to publish inaccurate and misleading information with impunity”, Ward said.

Previous budget cuts and small staff may make life more difficult for the Charity Commission. To E&T, Ward said he will write again shortly to the Commission to ask it to “re-consider its position, and to also take into account the other ways in which the Foundation harms the public interest through the dissemination of misinformation, including its press releases.”

The rejection of Ward’s letter makes the removal of GWPF’s charity status by the Charity Commission extremely unlikely. Even if it re-opens an investigation into the matter, experts doubt it would do anything more than issue another warning. Status removal is unrealistic because of how it dealt with other charities in the past. One example is the warning issued to the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA). In 2018, the IEA was investigated after offering potential US donors access to UK government ministers during the fund-raising for research to promote free-trade deals demanded by hardline Brexiteers. But the IEA pushed back and said the move had worrying implications for the wider sector.

The latest changes in political leadership could give the group even more influence. The election of Boris Johnson is a boon for the group, especially as Johnson’s stance on climate change isn’t completely clear. Johnson installed people from the camp of climate change deniers. One of Johnson’s first acts as PM was to make Monmouth MP David Davies a minister in the Welsh Office. Davies does not believe carbon dioxide is the main cause for climate change. Johnson’s move raises questions, especially in the light of previous promises made on the subject. The 2019 Conservative and Unionist Party Manifesto promised “[using] our £1 billion Ayrton Fund to develop affordable and accessible clean energy that will improve lives and help us to lead the world in tackling climate change”.

And the party appears committed to the 2050 target. Yet, Johnson refused to attend a televised debate on the climate crisis in November.

The Brexit decision may also lift GWPF’s spirits. Journalists found ties between GWPF and the Brexit league in the past. Shahmir Sanni, a volunteer for the official pro-Brexit EU referendum campaign, said GWPF is one of several organisations that had coordinated meetings for a hard Brexit by agreeing on a single set of right-wing talking points. When asked about it in the interview with E&T, Kelly rejected all notion that GWPF has any connection with Brexit.

The group is part of a larger network, called 55 Tufton Street network – a building space in Westminster with several right-wing, pro-Brexit think tanks. Past residents included the Vote Leave campaign and UK2020 UK, a right-wing think tank. Other residents in the network are Business for Britain, a pro-Brexit campaign, and The European Foundation, a Eurosceptic think tank. E&T also found Brexit to be still very much part of the Forum’s lobbying online. More than 50 of its online posts published in 2019 mentioned Brexit compared to 20 a year earlier.

Critics say GWPF’s outsized influence on the debate come from its institutional access via House of Lords members and through board members. Examples include Matt Ridley, a Brexit supporter and a Conservative hereditary peer with a seat in the House of Lords or previously Owen Paterson, a British Conservative Party politician who was part of the political advisory board of Leave Means Leave. There is also Nigel Lawson. Despite stepping down as chairman last year, Lawson, a Conservative peer and former Chancellor of the Exchequer, maintains a position as honorary president at the group he co-founded with Peiser. He was initially replaced as chairman by 85-year-old Labour peer Lord Donoughue, but the role has now passed to Terence Mordaunt, co-owner of Bristol Port. Peiser told E&T that Lord Donoughue had agreed at the time to serve for just a year because of his age.

In the past, these examples of people with power with sceptical views toward climate change offered the group what critics call an “unfair advantage” in connecting with the political elite.

Access to power could further prop GWPF chances in succeeding in future endeavours.

With more clout, more funding and less scrutiny from the state, the group appears to be in excellent shape. Experts anticipate the group to go against future environment-conscious free-trade agreements with major polluting countries. For this, one sign is the Initiative for Free Trade (IFT) report on a deregulatory US-UK free trade deal launched in partnership with the US-based libertarian think tank the Cato Institute. It represents the pro-Brexit groups’ proposed blueprint on the UK’s future trade relationships. GWPF is closely associated with IFT. GWPF’s lecturer Tony Abbott is on IFT’s international advisory panel. So is Lord Peter Lilley, a GWPF trustee. IFT is a pro-Brexit and free trade think tank launched in 2017 by Boris Johnson and Liam Fox. Other evidence on GWPF’s lobbying agenda is the leaked document presented by Jeremy Corbyn at the end of last November. It shows the US is unwilling to include climate action as an item for discussion in any future trade deal.

The upcoming COP 26 UN climate change conference is also likely to preoccupy the group. Hosted by Britain in Glasgow next November, it can be a moment for groups pushing climate science denial in their host countries, experts say. It could be another moment in the sun for GWPF.
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Feb 26, 2020 at 12:10 PM | Unregistered Commenternot banned yet

Something certainly needs to be seen to be done, and quickly, else the planet will sort itself out and no-one will be able to claim the credit for it!

Feb 26, 2020 at 1:25 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

The IET have a long row back from where the alarmists and assorted spineless goons have driven them.

Feb 26, 2020 at 1:55 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Interesting site, RR. Who are the professional climatologists who publish it? How do they average and weight the disparate data sources? Where can I download the code and raw data?

Feb 27, 2020 at 11:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Just look at the information on the site, Mr Clarke; you will find the answers there. That they might not be the answers that you seek is entirely up to you.

Feb 28, 2020 at 12:53 AM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

RR, it IS an interesting site, but it doesn't say much about who is behind it and how it works etc. It LOOKS plausible, but as sceptics, we should want to know more about it. Can you advise further?

Feb 28, 2020 at 8:41 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

You are correct, Mr Hodgson; I merely put it forward as another site to be considered. I am sure that if it was offering fake data, it would have been exposed, by now. Ironically, I suspect that it will soon be subject to a lot more vicious diatribes against it, if its data is genuine. Certainly, one to be watched.

Feb 28, 2020 at 10:11 AM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Reproducing results is a great idea, but you need to be clear about data and methods.

This site uses data products from the NOAA but gives little on detail on which datasets are included, or links.

Nor are they clear on methodology, just saying the data is 'averaged'. If this is a simple arithmetical average, with no allowance for spatial coverage then the results will be Inconsistent with other estimates which are all gridded in various ways (and for good reason).

Take their buoy data from the NBDC.

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/

Do you see a problem? Assuming this is the dataset they are using (impossible to be sure) the buoys are nearly all located in heavy shipping areas, with just one in all of the S. Pacific and none in the Arctic or Antarctic, where some of the most rapid warming has occurred. You could produce an estimate of temperature by averaging this data, but calling it global is hardly honest.

The NOAA produce their own global temperatures time series, of course, as do NASA, the Hadley Centre, Cowten and Way at the U of York. All publish their data and methods (code in the case of NASA), all deal with the challenge of sparse coverage slightly differently, however all show warming consistent with each other and with the models.

I look forward to learning more about this group of professionals, and their methods.

Feb 28, 2020 at 11:18 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Well done you, Mr Clarke – you have finally noticed that there is no uniformity of coverage of measurement stations, a feature which might have some influence on conclusions that may be reached – yet, I notice, while pointing out the paucity of measurement stations at both pole, you are happy to claim that they are heating up at a greater rate than the rest of the world; but then, everywhere is warming twice as fast as everywhere else. Now, apply that logic to the many other datasets that are published (many of them after being “homogenised” in somewhat arcane ways), and admit that there is still a lot of research to continue before we can really approach anything like some sort of conclusion, let alone how this “crisis” (it is no longer impending, of course, according to many “trusted” sources) might be countered.

Feb 28, 2020 at 11:57 AM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

No, the buoy dataset cited has poor polar coverage, there are other buoys and surface stations

How to deal with areas of sparse coverage is an interesting challenge, with some novel solutions, but does not affect the robustness of the conclusions

Feb 28, 2020 at 12:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Out of interest, Mr Clarke, what is the “perfect climate” the we must try and stabilise this world in (after 4 billion years of perpetual change)? Obviously, it is not those that we presently have, nor those which, it appears, that the present climates are changing into; presumably, we have overshot what was the “perfect climate”; so, what is it, and when was it? Once that has been defined, could you tell us the ways in which we might be able to achieve this “perfect climate” situation?

Feb 28, 2020 at 2:21 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Not a particularly well-posed question, however human civilisation, agriculture and more recently infrastructure developed during the relatively stable climate of the last 10,000 years or so.

As we are now destabilising that climate, we will do three things: adapt, mitigate and suffer. Mitigation by emissions reduction is, or would have been, the most cost effective of the three, and reduced the latter, but we we're starting late following a decade or more of denial, delay and disinformation.

HTH.

Feb 28, 2020 at 2:32 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

So, Mr Clarke, we have had a relatively stable climate these past 10,000 years or so… Relative to what, then? How would you define this stability? Shall I take a guess at having little or no temperature change? If that is the case, should the times of the mediæval warm period, the Roman warm period, the Mayan warm period, and the Holocene optimum suggest that this “stability” which you alluded to might not be as stable as you seem to claim? Given that these warm periods I have mentioned all experienced greater temperatures than we are experiencing, now, and were all separated from each other by periods of intense cold, such that the latest is often referred to as, “the little ice age,” what is so unusual about what is happening, now, with a rise since the little ice age being only about 1°C, with what occurred with rises to the earlier warm periods mentioned? What sort of temperature change over what sort of time period would class the present situation as “unstable”, relative to the past 10,000 years?

As you have used the term “relatively” in relation to the climates of the past 10,000 years, am I being presumptuous in assuming that, other than during these past 10,000 years of which you mentioned, the climates have been considerably less stable? What evidence is there that it is “we” (I shall not bother asking to whom “we” refers) who are destabilising the climate? Given that these 10,000 years are but a small proportion of the life of this planet, surely it should be this period of stability that is the oddity, so could it not be possible that the Earth is returning to its normal, less stable climates?

I would suggest that the only difference between the present climate change and the many, many changes that there have been in climates since the world began, is that we are around to observe and measure it. Given that we are agreed that climates can change quite naturally, then I would also suggest that the idea that “we” can have any significant influence upon these changes – by causing them, stopping them or even reversing them – is taking the hubris of humans to truly astonishing levels. Finally, you suggest there are only three options for this, of which one is “suffer”; in what way will we suffer, given that, since the little ice age, more of the human race has been raised out of suffering than at any time in known history? Why should we even attempt to mitigate was has proven to be so beneficial?

Feb 28, 2020 at 3:49 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

I am ignorant of any global 'Mayan Warm Period'. The Roman and Medieval Warm Periods were confined to Europe and the North Atlantic, whereas modern warmth exceeds both and is global.

The variation in temperatures over the whole Holocene was circa 1C and gradual, so gradual that if you plotted recent temperatures on a scale showing both, modern global warming would effectively be vertical, with central estimates of further warming varying from 1.5 to 4.5C.

Global population in the LIA was circa 0.5 billion. There are now more than 7 billion more people, so the need for climatic stability for infrastructure and agriculture is greater, not less. Eight out of the ten largest cities are coastal and at threat from sea level rise, a 1m rise in sea level would displace 10 million people in Bangladesh alone to pick out just two examples.

Or are you jumping on Kim's 'warming is net beneficial' train?

Feb 28, 2020 at 5:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

I am ignorant of any global 'Mayan Warm Period'.
You are right – I noticed the glaring error shortly after my 15 minutes allowed for correction had expired. Even I can be wrong; who knew? Obviously, I meant “Minoan”; I can live with that.
The Roman and Medieval Warm Periods were confined to Europe and the North Atlantic…
😂 🤣 😂 🤣 ….. that is an old chestnut, but it's the way you tell ‘em, Mr Clarke! Mind you, your other old jokes are wearing just a little thin: given that we have already agreed that climate stability is unusual, how are we mere mortals going to stabilise it? And at what level of “stability” are we to aim for? Oh, and while I have your attention, where is this 1m rise in sea level coming from, and when is it expected? Oh – and do note that many, if not most, of the “threatened” islands are actually growing in area, as, indeed, is Bangladesh. Finally, what is wrong with the “warming is net beneficial train”; can you direct us to any evidence that we have NOT had net benefit of warming since the LIA?

Feb 28, 2020 at 6:21 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

"Global Crisis: War, Climate Change and Catastrophe in the Seventeenth Century" by Geoffrey Parker

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Global-Crisis-Climate-Catastrophe-Seventeenth/dp/0300153236

"Revolutions, droughts, famines, invasions, wars, regicides, government collapses - the calamities of the mid-seventeenth century were unprecedented in both frequency and extent. The effects of what historians call the "General Crisis" extended from England to Japan, from the Russian Empire to sub-Saharan Africa. The Americas, too, did not escape the turbulence of the time. In this meticulously researched volume, master historian Geoffrey Parker presents the firsthand testimony of men and women who saw and suffered from the sequence of political, economic, and social crises between 1618 to the late 1680s. Parker also deploys the scientific evidence of climate change during this period. His discoveries revise entirely our understanding of the General Crisis: changes in prevailing weather patterns, especially longer winters and cooler and wetter summers, disrupted growing seasons and destroyed harvests. This in turn brought hunger, malnutrition, and disease; and as material conditions worsened, wars, rebellions, and revolutions rocked the world. The fatal synergy caused by the crisis killed perhaps one-third of the world's human population. Parker's demonstration of the link between climate change, war, and catastrophe 350 years ago stands as an extraordinary historical achievement. And the implications of his study are equally important: are we adequately prepared - or even preparing - for the catastrophes that climate change brings?"

That last sentence - the politically necessary reference to modern climate change - aside, the above should make one think a little beyond the current mass hysteria. Would I rather live through today's climate - or even that posited as likely by climate hysterics in say 50 or 100 years time - or would I rather live through the period in history described by Geoffrey Parker? I can't speak for others, but I would rather live now, and am glad that younger family members who might live through the next 50-100 years are young now, rather than living through the 17th century climate.

I recommend one and all to read the book, as I have. It might just offer food for thought, even for Phil.

Feb 28, 2020 at 7:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

The old chestnuts

Well quite. You point us to https://kaltesonne.de/mapping-the-medieval-warm-period/.

Kaltesonne (The Cold Sun) is the website of Fritz Vahrenholt, a project based on his book of the same name which blames GW on solar cycles. His wiki entry includes

Vahrenholt belongs to the minority that is skeptical about human-induced global warming. In 2012 Vahrenholt together with geologist Sebastian Lüning published Die kalte Sonne: warum die Klimakatastrophe nicht stattfindet[6][7] (The Cold Sun: Why the Climate Crisis Isn't Happening), a book asserting that climate change is driven by variations in solar activity. They predict the Earth is entering a cooling phase due to periodic solar cycles, and will cool by 0.2 to 0.3 degrees C by 2035. Numerous scientists, including the Council for Sustainable Development[8][9] , criticised the book and considered its underlying assumptions to be either outdated or highly speculative. Later events showed that in spite of a quite low activity of the sun during the Solar cycle 24, as had been forecasted in principle by Vahrenholt, the result of global cooling forecasted by Vahrenholt did not occur; the earth rather heated up even more.

So, not looking so good for Fritz. But wait, the MWP section of his website he delegates to the MWP Project from the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, largely a product of the Idso family, with its whizzy clickable map. They gamble that people won't actually do much clicking. The 'chestnut' here is to define the medieval period as so long in extent as to be meaningless - the map includes studies pinpointing warm peaks in 800 AD, 1100 AD or even 1400 AD at various different points around the globe, and to include studies that identify anomalies not just in temperature but precipitation. In case this is not enough, the Idsos flagrantly misrepresent the studies they are mapping. Take Mangini et al, the 'MWP project' interpret the paper as saying

… at three different points during the MWP their data indicate temperature spikes in excess of 1°C above present (1995-1998) temperatures of 1.8°C.

But the actual paper says

 Temperature maxima during the Medieval Warm Period are in average about 1.7 °C higher than the minima in the Little Ice Age and similar to present-day values.

In other words, in an attempt to demonstrate a globally synchronous MWP, the Idso family has to stretch the length of the period to more than half a millenium - during which, yes it will always be warm somewhere, and then lie about what the studies actually concluded. Hmmmm, chestnuts indeed.

By contrast, a peer-reviewed study published in Science concluded:

Global temperatures are known to have varied over the past 1500 years, but the spatial patterns have remained poorly defined. We used a global climate proxy network to reconstruct surface temperature patterns over this interval. The Medieval period is found to display warmth that matches or exceeds that of the past decade in some regions, but which falls well below recent levels globally

Feb 28, 2020 at 9:01 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Easterbook, Radical R? Really?

On March 26, 2013, a long-retired faculty member of our department, Don Easterbrook, presented his opinions on human-caused global climate change to the Washington State Senate Energy, Environment and Telecommunications Committee at the invitation of the committee chair Sen. Doug Ericksen, R.-Ferndale. We, the active faculty of the Geology Department at Western Washington University, express our unanimous and significant concerns regarding the views espoused by Easterbrook, who holds a doctorate in geology; they are neither scientifically valid nor supported by the overwhelming preponderance of evidence on the topic. We also decry the injection of such poor quality science into the public discourse regarding important policy decisions for our state's future; the chair of the committee was presented with numerous options and opportunities to invite current experts to present the best-available science on this subject, and chose instead to, apparently, appeal to a narrow partisan element with his choice of speaker.

We concur with the vast consensus of the science community that recent global warming is very real, human greenhouse-gas emissions are the primary cause, and their environmental and economic impacts on our society will likely be severe if we don't make significant efforts to address the problem. Claims to the contrary fly in the face of an overwhelming body of rigorous scientific literature.

We intend no disrespect to Easterbrook personally. We appreciate his previous service to our department and to Western. His present appointment as emeritus professor was made in light of his long-standing history at WWU. But people of the state of Washington need to understand that Easterbrook's ideas on anthropogenic global warming have not passed through rigorous peer review in the scientific literature. Additionally, Easterbrook's claims in this forum and elsewhere require the existence of a broad, decades-long conspiracy amongst literally thousands of scientists to falsify climate data and to prevent publication of opposing research. This opinion demonstrates a profound rejection of the scientific process and the fundamental value of rigorous peer review, and is also simply wrong.

Science thrives on controversies; it rewards innovative, unexpected findings, but only when they are backed by rigorous, painstaking evidence and reasoning. Without such standards, science would be ineffective as a tool to improve our society. It is worth acknowledging that nearly every technological advance in modern society is a direct result of that same scientific method (think the Internet, airplanes, antibiotics, and even your smartphone).

Easterbrook's views, as exemplified by his Senate presentation, are a stark contrast to that standard; they are filled with misrepresentations, misuse of data and repeated mixing of local vs. global records. Nearly every graphic in the hours-long presentation to the Senate was flawed, as was Easterbrook's discussion of them. For example, more than 100 years of research in physics, chemistry, atmospheric science and oceanography has, via experiments, numerous physical observations and theoretic calculations, clearly demonstrate - and have communicated via the scientific literature - that carbon dioxide is a powerful greenhouse gas; its presence and variations in Earth's atmosphere have significant and measureable impacts on the surface temperature of our planet. Alternatively, you can take Easterbrook's word - not supported by any published science - that the concentration and effects of carbon dioxide are so small as to not matter a bit.

In a specific example, Easterbrook referred to a graph of temperatures from an ice core of the Greenland ice sheet to claim that global temperatures were warmer than present over most of the last 10,000 years. First, this record is of temperature from a single spot on Earth, central Greenland (thus it is not a "global record"). Second, and perhaps more importantly, Easterbrook's definition of "present temperature" in the graph is based on the most recent data point in that record, which is actually 1855, more than 150 years ago when the world was still in the depths of the Little Ice Age, and well before any hint of human-caused climate change.

As the active faculty of the Western Washington University Geology Department that he lists as his affiliation, we conclude that Easterbrook's presentation clearly does not represent the best-available science on this subject, and urge the Senate, our state government, and the citizens of Washington State to rely on rigorous peer-reviewed science rather than conspiracy-based ideas to steer their decisions on matters concerning our environment and economic future.

Feb 28, 2020 at 9:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Ah… back to the ad homs already, Mr Clarke, with no attempt, whatsoever, of answering any of the questions. So sad. Byeeee!

Feb 28, 2020 at 10:07 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Not so Radical Rodent, the sad thing is your reliance on such busted flushes as Easterbook and Fritz Vahrenholt. It is not remotely ad hominem to point out that their arguments are totally without merit.

So it goes. And so the planet burns.

Feb 29, 2020 at 1:39 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

The planet burns? Greta looked pretty cold and wet to me yesterday.

No comment on how miserable life was during the Little Ice Age?

What IS the optimum temperature for the planet - and why?

Feb 29, 2020 at 8:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

Feb 29, 2020 at 8:08 AM Mark Hodgson

Phil Clarke doesn't believe in the Little Ice Age or Medieval Warm Period, as devotion to Mann's Hockey Stick requires complete denial of fact based evidence.

Feb 29, 2020 at 10:19 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Phil Clarke:
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Assuming this is the dataset they are using (impossible to be sure) the buoys are nearly all located in heavy shipping areas, with just one in all of the S. Pacific and none in the Arctic or Antarctic, where some of the most rapid warming has occurred. You could produce an estimate of temperature by averaging this data, but calling it global hardly honest.
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Phil - I agree with you about the temperature site: the example API call they give only provides the return of their results. They should provide details of their whole method and sources. The anonymity for me would be less of a problem if they did this.

On transparency, please can you provide your specific references in support of your rapid polar warming claim? My recollection is that the Antarctic is not showing any long term change and the Arctic claims are very sensitive to station choices and infilling methods. Thank you.

Feb 29, 2020 at 10:59 AM | Unregistered Commenternot banned yet

My actual words were: the Arctic or Antarctic, where some of the most rapid warming has occurred, you're broadly correct, the Arctic has warmed rapidly, 0.75C in the last decade, while the Antarctic on average has remained relatively stable, but within that average was the Antarctic Peninsula which warmed faster than any other place on Earth.

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/12/eaaw9883

Feb 29, 2020 at 11:30 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Mark, I'd much rather live today than in the Little Ice Age, for reasons including the climate, modern sanitation and the NHS to name but three. As for the perfect climate, perfect for who?

Feb 29, 2020 at 11:32 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke