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Discussion > FLOP26 Ep6 with James Woudhuysen Professor of Futurology

Talk 7 ​James Woudhuysen Professor of Futurology
says the purpose of COP26 is to "help establish a new international ruling class"
and brands it "anti democratic".
direct link to start at minute 10

Comments are in brackets are my words or commenters from the livestream)

Nov 7, 2021 at 12:28 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

#0 BenPile : Greens say we are on brink
yet then they banned nuclear
So "COP26's not about, what they say it's about"

References classic Paul Erlich saying cheap energy is a bad thing
They don't want solutions
they want SCARCITY

James Woudhuysen summarises his book : Energise
#1 if we made it, we can fix it ..Industry has affected the planet
#2 Sociology of Energy
Greens attacking human beings then calling ppl deniers
#3 Different Tech Policies
#4 Energise : we need to raise our game against human lifestyle police


#1 if we made it, we can fix it
If natural we can't
Distinguish between Climate and Weather
citing weather or even 10 years of weather not climate
It's centuries/millenia

#2 Sociology of Energy
The greens are always attacking natural human behaviour. They are misanthropes
Psychobabble of calling people "deniers"

#3 Different Tech Policies
attacked Drax pellets

#4 Energise : we need to raise our game against human lifestyle police

(@ gufpott : ​I read 1.5C as an acknowledgement that climate sensitivity is much lower than "hoped for".
So the needed to argue for a lower point where disaster assumed to start)

#5 COP26 ? is a way of the Ruling Class regrouping after being attacked by popularism and Trump,
They are rallying their people i. Appealing to youth
Good to see Greta rejecting this manipulation
(Ah he is saying Greta is standing up to the elites trying to hijack the youth)

(@UC: ​Greta's - Imagine there is a fire in your house - originated with psychologist Margaret Klein Salamon-founder The Climate Mobilisation Project -circa 2016 - Climate emergency is also Margaret's phrase
- Leading the Public into Emergency mode - 2016
- the whole point of declaring 'Climate Emergency' - is to get the emergency powers for politicians (in her project, the USA) like in a war.)

(​ @lrdiscovictim phrase "The Emergency" certainly panicked a lot of dimwitted incurious local councils )

#6 SkyNews Climate propaganda /nudging
Admits they are trying to use NEWS to change people's behaviour
Their dogma is that we have to act NOW, we can't wait for technology
so changing behaviour is the ONLY way

But their own surveys show they are no winning people fast : Over 11 years they've gone from 65% to 76% public support
(As if such surveys are real science, rather than PR BS anyway)

#7 The Climate Referendum petition
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/599602
(​FFS the lefty Newstatesman.com— "A climate referendum is a deadly threat – greens must prepare to FIGHT one now."

#8 Attenborough : "tipping points coming within 10 years"
JW mentioned tipping points in his book
saying actually they can be overcome
(​""tipping points" is like a religious doom word, saying we are going to hell)

#9 clip : kid Dara McNulty : Forest preaching, including untrue statements
Are all the kids all brainwashed ?
(@UC : Climate Kids = ​sons and daughters of the activists.)
(Brainwashed ALL kids ?.. no they are cherrypicking ... many are sane)
JW : Hitler an Stalin used children
... (Yes Greta's mob = Hitler Youth)

Focusing on Developing Countries , Indigenous
("Focusing on Developing Countries , Indigenous" that is the NATURE FALLACY)
It's reinforcing culture of FEAR

Archbishop of Canterbury got in to trouble for calling skeptics like Nazis , but he comes from a tricky background himself
He's using fire and damnation talk to push FEAR of not believing in Climate doom

#11 Animism people think ir's bad, but now Greens want to go back to Nature Spirit ..eg Gaia
Ben ah chimes with ecocide ..giving nature things court rights
Enviro is opposed to humanism
JW Greta is a Shaman ..so has status

#12 Back to book
Ben : Nuclear power..what if we'd directed effort there ?
JW
Chip Bupp put negatives claiming it's expensive
But yes , what if we'd gone for modular ?
Rolls Royce says gov delys are bad
but now Boris and FT seem to be getting back now.
(Notice that the BBC have buried Jim Al Khalil's Fukushima documentary)
​(Our local TV is big on scaremongering merely cos an old gas field base is being considered as a nuclear waste repository)

#13 Fusion
Milton Park been given a £10m grant from BEIS
that's nothing
(lrdiscovictim ​BEIS are more 🤡 clownworld)

ITER gets £1bn, £10bn but then Rishi talks about £1trn for Green stuff
but Peter Field is talking about 50MW fusion expansion reactors
price quoted ​1c KWh fusion vs 4c with gas

#14 Boris at Octopus..Dynamic Prices
He thinks this is a magic price cutter
Everyone esle knows this pushes UP prices in low wind
ie it's RATIONING
(If there was a sudden wind burst guaranteed an extra 100MW for an hour Why would national grid reduce the price to domestic consumers ?
rather they'd say to the big chemical factory, "you can fire up the kilns for an hour")

( @lrdiscovictim : I looked at Octopus and it's just tariff game that would have a 20th C mobile phone marketeer messtheir underwear)
(@ Simon Roberts
​Still waiting for that 'cheap' green energy.
SG : actually there is a bit of cheap night time EV charging, but not much )

#15 Ben reals off a list or orgs that are against their own titles
eg development orgs that are against development
Countryside protection orgs that want more onrete in the countryside
So are environmentalists against the enviro ? ..Often eg concreting to build windfarms etc.
The idolisation of Africa
Kevin MCloud ..admired Bombay slums
That's EU thinking too
(​Yep EU is Marie Antoinette "Let them eat solar" )


#16 End so environmentalism is an obstacle
No stream on Sunday

Nov 7, 2021 at 12:29 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Next week's talk
: Morality of Greens,
: Climate Lawfare
: Practical Realities of Net Zero

Nov 7, 2021 at 12:29 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Typo : "citing weather or even 10 years of weather IS NOT not climate
Rather climate is centuries/millennia

Nov 7, 2021 at 12:45 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen