Lurch is an appropriate name

An intersting insight into Antartic Ice. There is a sound assessment of the uncertainties in the Conclusiion usually absent in rubbish papers.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1029/2022GC010501

DaveS I have done that on numerouse occasions and the response has always as you suggest. They seem incapable of looking bjectively at the evidence. My favourite questions is "What is the scientific evidence that increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere have ANY effect on climate. They come back with "Consensous" and "Climate Models" I frequently point out that Climate Models are not evidence and include so many arbitary assumptions as to be useless. At this point they usually brakoff the contact. Pathetic !

@Ross Lee

When it comes to climate and nut zero issues I see no evidence that UK politicians read anything beyond the briefing notes handed to them by party HQ. You can try sending links such as the one you provide to your MP with a specific related question (always important to ask a question to be sure of a response), but chances are that all you'll get back is some patronising nonsense extolling the virtues of the MP's party's green credentials.

It's raining here so with time on my hands and a prompt from Robert Swan I am re-watching " The Hitch Hikers Gulide to the Galaxy" for the umpteenth time. I have just reached Bartyslartfast's (my best attempt at his name) design of Norway !

and now for someting completely different - Do UK politians ever read the Daily Sceptic Website ? I hope so

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/07/14/nobel-physics-laureate-2022-slams-climate-emergency-narrative-as-dangerous-corruption-of-science/

I found it interesting that the global average temperature maxima recently in the news depend essentially on a warmer than normal winter in Antarctica. The ups and downs elsewhere basically average out to normality. See NALOPKT.

The interesting question is whether the extra lack of extreme cold there is giving rise to increased radiation to space. The atmosphere in Antarctica has an unusual temperature profile normally, with temperature inversion between the plateau and the troposphere.

M Courtney,

That might all be fair enough, but you should add a generous helping of scorn.

Put it into Douglas Adams's total perspective vortex: if the temperature of the Earth is important, how much more important must the temperature of the entire universe be? And basic physics tells us that the temperature of the universe must be going up because matter is constantly being converted into energy. What's to be done? I suppose, to set an example to the rest of the universe, we could put our best efforts into extinguishing the Sun.

How would a sensible person compare climates here on Earth? Typically, you'd grab an atlas that gives average temperature range and average rainfall for each month of the year. Could this be usefully distilled down to a single number? No. A desert and a rainforest might have the same average, but one temperature swings wildly each day, while the other doesn't change much. It doesn't work out well if you go equipped for one and find yourself in the other.

Yet somehow the scientists manage not only to average over the whole globe, but to interpret trends in this average of averages to warn of hurricanes and floods and heat waves and droughts. It is simply absurd, and they should be ridiculed. They are labouring on a meaningless number. Douglas Adams had the answer at 42.

Sorry about the double-post. Got a "Forbidden" first time, so tried again.

Oh well, quantity making up for a lack of quality.

DaveS,

Yes, that statement stood out for me too. Difficult to reconcile with the Energy Minister's statement:

it's clear that there is no strong local support.