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absurd FotE advert on YouTube

https://youtu.be/R-cUWeuYBb0

May 4, 2024 at 10:23 AM | Registered Commentertomo

Bill Gates is reducing his carbon footprint

https://youtu.be/wHEtjMbiefc

May 4, 2024 at 10:00 AM | Registered Commentertomo

EVs are the future

https://twitter.com/iainpdooley/status/1786660679992119402

May 4, 2024 at 9:17 AM | Registered Commentertomo

Robin Guenier

thanks for taking the time to elaborate.

'opponents just go quiet' - implies that they're thinking ... I can't help thinking that once the connections / assumptions that you are dismantling with facts and rational inference start to randomly reconnect that the ideological nature of Net Zero will assert itself as the adherents of the cult realise that you are an existential threat to their delusions.

I've had similar reactions (silence) from enthusiasts of renewables when provided with evidenced unadorned simple realities and how those realities would very likely play out / impact in their life experiences - and then, later, - they return, repeating the mantras ... the religious element is difficult to challenge!

It might be possible by dint of extraordinary self control to keep things on an even keel - good luck with that !

I hope that you can get your case in front of people who are near the levers of political power - I wonder at what gatekeeping is in place....

https://twitter.com/aDissentient/status/1783772497428586806

May 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM | Registered Commentertomo

Robert

motorcycle engined small cars was a rabbit hole I went down a few years ago having seen Kawasaki engined Fiat 500s in hill climb videos.

Matt Brown's creation was showcased on Jay Leno show.

Matt's website is littered with rabbit holes!

May 4, 2024 at 8:23 AM | Registered Commentertomo

Another cretin on the BBC payroll

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/02/bbc-presenter-says-calling-animals-english-names-jarring/

May 3, 2024 at 5:43 PM | Unregistered CommenterDaveS

Robert: I'm content with an approach that's (a) true and (b) works.

May 3, 2024 at 9:32 AM | Unregistered CommenterRobin Guenier

Robin Guenier,
I have no great beef with the "I am not a scientist" part. It's the "so I don't know" that I'd avoid. It implies that scientists *do* know (or at least *can* know). Judith Curry is a scientist who says that the "complexity monster" turns a lot of the certainties into maybes.

Sufficient, I think, to get straight to the point, not refer to scientists at all and start with a confident "I don't know".

May 3, 2024 at 9:21 AM | Unregistered CommenterRobert Swan

Robert: the advantages of the 'I'm not a scientist' approach are that it's true and that it works. See
this .

May 3, 2024 at 8:24 AM | Unregistered CommenterRobin Guenier

Robin Guenier,
That's a pretty good response. One reservation: I'm not keen on the inverted appeal to authority — I'm not a scientist so I don't know — it rings of the Trust The Science mantra. Scientists don't *know* either. Religion deals in certainties, science is nullius in verba.

My predictions of "friendly fire" were from my own attempts at reductio ad absurdum arguments against climate alarm. The moment they'd see the words "Assume x is true", the ardent believers: "of course it's true, why do you doubt it?", and the ardent unbelievers: "but it's NOT true!", and the later logical implications part of the argument was ignored by both.

Again, I wish you well with your efforts to derail the Net Zero madness. As you say, maybe it's far enough from the central articles of climate faith that you won't be dismissed as a blasphemer. Your more diplomatic manner might help too. As is often the case, my expectations are a good deal lower than my hopes.

Another possible line of attack on Net Zero is the trial run. Today Jo Nova has an article on Alice Springs and its 50% renewables by 2030 ambitions. Pretty modest compared to national rhetoric, but underpinned by lessons from experience.

The problem with learning from small scale experiments is how people scale them up. It's so easy to imagine economies of scale, the magic of Moore's Law, the wind is always blowing somewhere, etc., so of course the small prototype is far *too* small.


tomo,
Your link was mangled. Googling turned up this article which was a good yarn. I remember reading an article many years ago on the Honda S600 saying what fun it was: that you got to drive at 12,000 rpm like an F1, but on ordinary streets and at legal speeds. That engine upgrade no doubt changed that.

May 3, 2024 at 12:39 AM | Unregistered CommenterRobert Swan

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