Mr Musk saw fit to retweet this. Bit of tasteful ridicule.

Too said "the kindergarten suicide bomber role play stuff with the 3 hole balaclavas and camo romper suits finished off any residual sympathy I had..."

Yes, anyone capable of the critical act of having two or more functioning brain cells will be in the same boat.

Sadly though, there are many on the left who would be only too happy to have joined in on the 7th of October...just as they would have happily loaded their friends, family and neighbours in to cattle carts all across Europe in the early 1940's.

tomo,
Yeah, making a good living out of prolonging problems is widespread and growing. It might be partly a byproduct of "educating" people who, just a century ago, would have been employed as farm workers. Idle hands, Devil's work, all that.

Didn't take them long to scuttle Durkin's latest. Clearly it was right on target.

That facial recognition thing is beyond a joke. A couple of years ago it was "you must wear a mask", now it's "you must not wear a mask". Time to identify as a Muslim woman...

Mailman,
I doubt the zealots are all that numerous in Gaza. There are bound to be many there convinced that all their suffering is down the Israelis, but I'm sure there are plenty who are well aware that they are constantly being propagandised. I doubt there's any way to "brainwash" a population. It'll take with many, but there will always be some who don't buy it (as per COVID).

If you listen to that EconTalk, you'll hear him blaming a lot of the trouble on external support from Qatar both in large amounts of money and in shelter for Hamas high-ups. It seems to me that the Qataris are the zealots to worry about, not the deluded fools on the ground in Gaza. The Ireland parallel being that the IRA (etc.) footsoldiers, even if they still believed the nonsense, weren't able to do much soldiering when all the money from American romantics dried up.

Unless the world is prepared to go hard...

Those are words I don't like to see. Who is this "world"? It's a bit diverse and inclusive don't you think? Maybe you just meant the civilised world, or was it the good guys? I don't have much faith in "international collaboration". It seems that, in all cases during my lifetime, such actions have served only to prolong problems, and I strongly suspect there were people milking them for all they were worth.

I vote for no interference from anybody: World or Arab. I think an unsupported Israel might be able to come to an arrangement with an unsupported Hamas. Yes, even Hamas.

Robbo said "The latest EconTalk was a good conversation with a moderate Palestine sympathiser, born in Gaza, but living in the USA. Listening to it has pretty much brought me back to my original view of Gaza being, like Northern Ireland, a victim of organised criminals milking an ideological problem."

I think the problem is much worse than that now. Hamas has had 18 unopposed years to absolutely brain wash the population in to believing the Jews are evil incarnate....so now we are dealing with an entire generation of psychopaths only too happy to murder and rape Jews for the crime of being Jews (as we saw on the 7th of October...which is what actual genocide looks like).

Unless the world is prepared to go hard at the de-nazification of Gaza that place will remain similar to any Democrat run city, an absolute shit hole.

tomo,
Thanks for the link. Certainly on target, though preaching to the choir with you and me. The closing part reminded me of Winston's glimmer: If there is hope, it lies in the proles. Seems to apply to the climate nonsense; the establishment won't heal itself. Will share with some of my proletarian friends.

The latest EconTalk was a good conversation with a moderate Palestine sympathiser, born in Gaza, but living in the USA. Listening to it has pretty much brought me back to my original view of Gaza being, like Northern Ireland, a victim of organised criminals milking an ideological problem.

My next thought was that we might characterise this century so far as the years of prolonging problems. From that Multiple Sclerosis charity, to Gaza, to global warming, to Australia's Aboriginal "Voice", the purpose has not been to address the problem, but to subsist off it for as long as possible.