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Fred updates his article
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2011/02/climate-sceptics-scientists-at.html
such fun
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/february042011/global-superstorms-ta.php
interesting link from Climate Depot
ZDB
Right wing, lacking creativity and imagination, well you seem to be indicating that I have a particular leaning that should be taken with a pinch of salt, I'm surprised that there is no mention of funding from certain oil companies. You really have taken up the methodology of the moment.
Perhaps upon your approval I should include a disclaimer at the bottom stating that 'the views expressed within this post are those of a suspected right winger and should be read with the knowledge that there will be nothing creative or imaginative within the content to those of a consensus viewpoint.'
Or would you prefer a tag of a single word to indicate my position on the current issue.
Please, if you don't have the backup of sufficient evidence to create an imaginative argument then don't resort to ad hominem attacks, it doesn't add any credibility to your standing and belittles the effort that the Bishop has put into this site in order to create an informative area of debate and discourse.
FFS Zed!
Don't waste your talents defending the indefensible ;-)
Seriously - do you know anyone working for the BBC? I do - and I can assure you that, how shall I put this? There is a pervasive left-liberal bias in the corporate culture, ably enforced by a fair degree of PC.
But good comment - funny (not derisive funny; funny ha ha).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/04/wind-farms-nimbyism
The times are a changing.......
A guardian article criticising windfarms, railing against PC (ie can't criticise them) mentions you can't store energy, mentions when the wind does not blow (specific example last December) , mentions that have to have coal fired to back up wind farms, and even quotes the Daily Mail ! - POsitively. the recent article about the toxic waste in their productionin China
Who would have though this article was posible...
the comments are fun!
"Is this the beginning of the end for the left leaning bias or a means to ensure that the right type of people work at the Beeb?"
Feb 6, 2011 at 10:03 AM | Lord Beaverbrook
Mmm, all those left-wing programmes like Top Gear, Antiques Roadshow, and Trooping of the Colour. Often, as I watch the BBCs staunchly Tory chief political editor Nick Robinson, I think to myself that this left-wing bias has gone too far.
Something in the centre, when viewed from far enough to one side, appears to be on the other. It's a matter of perspective. To me, Auntie often seems a little Conservative for my tastes, but I have the objectivity to realise that's probably just me. Put it this way, it's rare to hear someone moaning about left wing bias in the Beeb who's not right wing.
Creative and imaginative people, are better at empathising with others, and as a consequence are often left-leaning. People who are less creative and imaginative, tend to empathise more with people who are similar to them, go to golf clubs, drive the same type of car etc. There's therefore a tendancy to be more Conservative. As a Media company, the BBC is naturally chock a block with creative types, and it's testament to the way the remit is enforced, that it's as impartial as it is.
Auntie is washing her underwear in public!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354112/BBC-boss-charge-Manchester-commutes-4-000-miles-UK-U-S--avoiding-income-tax.html
Is this the beginning of the end for the left leaning bias or a means to ensure that the right type of people work at the Beeb?
Cumbrian Lad
I'm inclined to agree as the extent of 'Oil-Funded Denialism' is greatly exaggerated these days. Not to say that it did not, and does not, go on, but as you suggest, let's not get bogged down.
Zed/BBD I think the issue of source of funding has been pretty much nailed by now. 'Oil' is funding all shapes and sizes of science, including climate studies and if you were to ignore or discount anything with fossil funding then we'd be back in the self funded vicar type of science. Let's concentrate on the quality of output, not the who pay's whom.
Joe Romm's latest spin on events in North Africa.
He tries to blame climate for rising world food prices. Perhaps he should look at the increasing cost of many forms of energy to produce food, and also the massive amounts of food diverted to 'green' fuel production. The increase in energy costs in a large part is driven by idealogues that want to reduce energy demand by putting the price up - and also to subsidise 'green energy'.
http://climateprogress.org/2011/01/30/egyptian-tunisian-riots-food-prices-extreme-weather-and-high-oil-prices/