WUWT? Was that the site that told its readers where they could buy tonic water? Cos, you know, quinine.

LOL.

Phil Clarke, how much was wasted by Gergis alone, as she tried to prove Mann's Hockey Stick?
You did not need convincing, because you were never sceptical at all.

Your stupidity knows no bounds.

Was it 175 attempts to prove Mann's Hockey Stick at taxpayer's expense?
How much has Hansen cost US Taxpayers?
The Policing Cost to UK Taxpayers for COP 26 in Glasgow was going to be £200 million.

Apr 13, 2020 at 5:51 PM golf charlie

Apr 14, 2020 at 12:43 PM Phil Clarke
Eamon Holmes supports Global Warming and 5G theories for Coronavirus transmission.

Apr 14, 2020 at 12:43 PM Phil Clarke

The Climate Change Act has caused so much financial damage, AND it has shifted UK manufacturing to China.

As a welcome to Green Blob politics and economics, it is not going well.

For any badly affected by TDS and boundless stupidity:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/04/13/uk-national-health-service-trials-trump-pills-treat-coronavirus/

"Given that no doctor is going to give you chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic measure, using Indian tonic water containing quinine to reduce infectivity would seem to be a prudent preventative measure.

The wrap-up: It would appear that quinine interferes with sialic acid biosynthesis, which the Covid19 virus takes advantage of to attach to cell receptors. If the virus has a more difficult time attaching to cells, that allows the body to clear the virus without having to simultaneously deal with a rapidly-spreading infection.

[1] https://www.drugs.com/npp/quinine.html

[2] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2710.2007.00788.x

[3] https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2019/01/22/quinines-target

[4] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300881

[5] https://friendslab.com/quinine-use-and-detection/

[6] https://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB00468

[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonic_water

[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinine

[9] https://healthfully.com/287838-leg-cramps-magnesium-calcium.html

[10] https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-19765/cal-mag-zinc-ii-oral/details/list-interaction-details/dmid-455/dmtitle-aluminum-and-magnesium-antacids-quinidine-quinine/intrtype-drug

[11] https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/131/2/305/4687001

[12] https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-symptoms-loss-of-smell-taste-covid-19-anosmia-hyposmia-2020-3?op=1

[13] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/

[14] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0282-0"

Posted by _Jim April 11, 2020 at 2:50 pm on /

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/04/11/of-quinine-and-chloroquine/

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/04/13/japan-minister-paris-accord-under-threat-if-coronavirus-trumps-climate-change/

"It is looking increasingly likely the fake emergency Paris Agreement will be finished off by the need to address a real problem.

Japan minister: Paris accord under threat if coronavirus trumps climate change

TOKYO (Reuters) – Japanese Environment Minister Shinjiro Koizumi warned on Monday that the Paris climate accord could face death if steps to fight global warming were put on the backburner to facilitate the economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic.

Many economists and policymakers are forecasting a steep global recession this year as countries are forced into lockdowns to contain the spread of the coronavirus, curtailing business activity in a major blow to jobs and incomes.

“It would virtually mean the death of the Paris accord if we gave priority unconditionally to economic recovery, while neglecting the environment,” Koizumi told Reuters in an interview.

…

“No one at the environment ministry disagrees that the economy is important. We just would like to behave in a way that ensures the environment will never be left behind,” said Koizumi.

…

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-japan/japan-minister-paris-accord-under-threat-if-coronavirus-trumps-climate-change-idUSKCN21V13T

Greens slammed Japan’s “increased ambition” submission for COP26 as a copy and paste of their previous position.

Though credit for getting their homework in ahead of time, China plans to delay their submission until after the 2020 US Presidential Election."

Clarke, data showing the unprecedented warming:

https://notrickszone.com/2020/04/13/new-studies-europe-is-no-warmer-today-than-it-was-during-medieval-times/

..and why diesel cars are so bad for the environment:

https://notrickszone.com/2020/04/14/corona-exposes-inconvenient-truth-pollution-from-diesel-cars-grossly-over-hyped-by-german-activists/

Oh dear.

Charley - Everything posted at NTZ is a half-truth, at best. The two 'European' studies: the first is from a single stand of trees 2000m up a Greek mountain. It finds at that spot around AD900 it was warmer than today, but the difference lacked statistical significance. They also found

Another striking feature of the Mt. Smolikas reconstruction is the severe tenth century cooling trend culminating in a record low of −1.63 °C from 997–1026 CE (Figs. 4, 7; Table 2). This period falls right into the center of the MWP

More evidence that the MWP was a feature of North Europe, not global. Odd of NTZ not to mention that.

The second study was a multi-proxy review and was not about the reconstructions themselves but a comparison of the linearity amongst different proxy methods. If you look at the graphs presented by NTZ, they are actually plotting z-score, not temperature. The proxies were calibrated against the HADCRUT dataset which most definitely shows warming.

Oh and you would indeed need to be deranged to get medical advice from comments on a pseudoscience blog

"Everything posted at NTZ is a half-truth, at best."

That tells us a great deal about the way your apology for a brain works.

Apr 14, 2020 at 6:27 PM Phil Clarke
Far more open and honest than Mann with his adjusted Hockey Stick that found no MWP or LIA.

Why don't you just admit it?

That is why no one trusts the Hockey Stick

Oh and you would indeed need to be deranged to get medical advice from comments on a pseudoscience blog

Apr 14, 2020 at 6:27 PM Phil Clarke

Real Climate and Skeptical Science?

Has Mann or Schmidt *ever* volunteered a mistake?

SkS even ?

Has Mann or Schmidt *ever* volunteered a mistake?

Apr 14, 2020 at 7:19 PM fred

Mann might want to explain this one

Ignore the title of the post, Steve McIntyre has queried Mann's methodology. And why not? Climate Scientists aren't being asked for scare stories very often at the moment.

https://judithcurry.com/2020/04/14/in-favor-of-epistemic-trespassing/

Gavin gets a lot right. E.g.

Well, let’s be clear about what we are talking about. We can’t make the political decisions about what to do about climate change (how to mitigate, how to adapt) go away. And we have to remember that the overwhelming majority of scientists working in this field are just trying to do their jobs as best they can, following where the data and understanding are leading them. I don’t see any politicisation in how the community does science and gets grants. So what I am referring to is the fact that a few very select issues in the science have become political flash points. Studies in those fields have become lightning rods for very partisan and unpleasant campaigns, and Senators, Congressmen, lawyers and Attorneys-General have piled on to make political hay out of it, without any regard for the underlying issues.

Really, no one is making policy decisions based on 15th Century tree rings.

From <http://www.keithkloor.com/?p=3314>

This is also germane

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/what-if-the-hockey-stick-were-wrong/

Gavin gets a lot right. E.g.

Well, let’s be clear about what we are talking about. We can’t make the political decisions about what to do about climate change (how to mitigate, how to adapt) go away. And we have to remember that the overwhelming majority of scientists working in this field are just trying to do their jobs as best they can, following where the data and understanding are leading them. I don’t see any politicisation in how the community does science and gets grants. So what I am referring to is the fact that a few very select issues in the science have become political flash points. Studies in those fields have become lightning rods for very partisan and unpleasant campaigns, and Senators, Congressmen, lawyers and Attorneys-General have piled on to make political hay out of it, without any regard for the underlying issues.

Really, no one is making policy decisions based on 15th Century tree rings.

From <http://www.keithkloor.com/?p=3314>

This is also germane

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/what-if-the-hockey-stick-were-wrong/

This is also germane

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/what-if-the-hockey-stick-were-wrong/

Apr 15, 2020 at 8:41 PM Phil Clarke

What if Hockey Teamsters have been wrong all along, because of errors in the statistical analysis as highlighted by Steve McIntyre, Andrew Montford and many others?

There is no point in wasting more money on the Paris Agreement, and the EU and US Democrats are in for some embarrassment over the New Green Deals they want to force everyone to pay for.

In the real world, MIntyre's crticisms fall into two categories. Some had merit, but did not change the conclusions significantly, I am thinking non-centred PCA. Others might have changed the conclusions but have no merit. I am thinking the autocorrelated red noise debacle.

Montford added nothing of substance.

"Montford added nothing of substance.
Apr 15, 2020 at 9:54 PM | Phil Clarke"

You only have the words of unreliable Hockey Teamsters to depend on, as you have not read "The Hockey Stick Illusion" by Andrew Montford

" I don’t see any politicisation in how the community does science and gets grants"

There's a lot that Gavin doesn't see.

FROTFFLMFAFO

Apr 15, 2020 at 9:54 PM Phil Clarke
Is your support for Mann's Hockey Stick above or below 97% confidence?

so that's a no then?

The Hockey Stick Illusion might serve a psychological need in those who can’t face their own complicity in climate change, but at the end of the day it’s exactly what it says on the box: a write-up of somebody else’s blog.

From <http://www.alastairmcintosh.com/articles/2010-montford-hockey-stick.htm>

Apr 16, 2020 at 8:48 AM Phil Clarke
So that would be another dedicated Real Climate-reading Hockey Teamster without the ability to read a book?

A heavily-criticised 10 year old book about a 31 year old study? A study that has become canonical, subjected to extraordinary scrutiny and reproduced many times over.

Even locked down, way better uses for my time, thanks.

Apr 16, 2020 at 10:53 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke
Why do you cite Gavin Schmidt? Even locked down I have better things to do, but the comments made by Judith Curry are those that can be supported with evidence. She seems to have a better understanding of honesty.