"Back on the ignore list.

Apr 8, 2020 at 9:35 AM Phil Clarke"

Hockey Teamsters can't complain if Trump uses that line towards them.

After St Greta's defiance, he could use it towards the UN IPCC and COP 26 (if anybody considers it worth the money to continue the same disagreements about there being no money to give away)

It is not entirely rotten and complicit in the CO2/climate alarmism that has so disgraced humanity for decades.
Apr 8, 2020 at 4:57 PM John Shade

Sadly, the honest 3% have lost a well respected man.

The 97% Consensus only have St Greta, a busted stick and the Mann, with no support from his loyal team. They seem to have denied him. A fine tribute to Fred Singer.

Odd reluctance amongst those lauding this great scientist to point out any career highlights. (other than that honesty-deficient American Thinker piece, best quietly forgotten). He surely did some excellent work in his early career, however his last atmospheric science paper was in 1971.

His tobacco industry lobbying?

Or the Cosmos Incident?

Or the attribution of sea level rise to natural causes?

Maybe editing the NIPCC Reports? (ker-chiiing!)

C'mon Fred fans - give me your top three!

Apr 8, 2020 at 5:47 PM Phil Clarke
Shouldn't you be concentrating on defending Mann's Hockey Stick and how you are going to explain Climate Science's demands for $100bn per year to Biden, before he has to justify it to the USA on live TV?

Mr Shade,

It is hardly surprising that the founder of the Heartland Institute was a Fred Fan. After all Singer's modus operandi was to deny science for money, which is an exact encapsulation of the Heartland business model.

Thanks again for staying true to the moral and intellectual poverty part of the thread title.

" .. was to deny science for money,"
Apr 8, 2020 at 11:03 PM | Phil Clarke

You are denying Mann's Hockey Stick for money. Anything you would like to be honest about yet?

https://berniesanders.com/issues/green-new-deal/
★As President, Bernie Sanders Will Avert Climate Catastrophe and Create 20 Million Jobs★
Democrats said No.

As president, Bernie Sanders will launch the decade of the Green New Deal, a ten-year, nationwide mobilization centered around justice and equity during which climate change will be factored into virtually every area of policy, from immigration to trade to foreign policy and beyond.
★ Democrats said No.

This plan outlines some of the most significant goals we have set and steps we will take during this mobilization, including:

Reaching 100 percent renewable energy for electricity and transportation by no later than 2030 and complete decarbonization of the economy by 2050 at latest – consistent with the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change goals – by expanding the existing federal Power Marketing Administrations to build new solar, wind, and geothermal energy sources.
★ Democrats said No★

From coastal towns to rural farms to urban centers, climate change poses an existential threat – not just to our environment, but to our health, our communities, our national security, and our economic well-being. It also damages our communities with storms that wreak havoc on our towns and cities and our homes and schools. It puts our national security at risk by leading to regional instability that will require U.S military-supported relief activities and could make areas more vulnerable to terrorist activities.

Vice President Biden knows there is no greater challenge facing our country and our world. Today, he is outlining a bold plan – a Clean Energy Revolution – to address this grave threat and lead the world in addressing the climate emergency.

Biden believes the Green New Deal is a crucial framework for meeting the climate challenges we face. It powerfully captures two basic truths, which are at the core of his plan: (1) the United States urgently needs to embrace greater ambition on an epic scale to meet the scope of this challenge, and (2) our environment and our economy are completely and totally connected.

Democrats said Yes

https://joebiden.com/climate/

Phil Clarke,

For a long time, I thought that you posted as you do because either you are thick ( most likely ) or because you have some kind of venal interest. Or maybe both.

Since the death of Fred Singer, I am led to believe that you post as you do because you are an apology for a human being.

I will give you a clue, Charley. Genuine scientists add to the body of knowledge in their discipline. Singer stopped being a scientist around about half a century ago. Sorry, but there it is.

http://rabett.blogspot.com/2007/04/if-richard-lindzen-shows-up-at-your.html

I will give you a clue, Charley. Genuine scientists add to the body of knowledge in their discipline.
Apr 9, 2020 at 2:00 AM | Phil Clarke

Climate Scientists have lived off false assumptions for over 20 years, and should not be trusted by politicians.

Radical Rodent. Everything you just wrote is wrong.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0217148
https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-climate-change-is-already-making-droughts-worse
https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/question-13/
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2018/05/does-global-warming-make-tropical-cyclones-stronger/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51742646

Apr 9, 2020 at 3:11 PM Phil Clarke
Do any of those Climate Science Experts still believe in Mann's Hockey Stick, and were they Peer Reviewers too?

Is Phil spewing shallow newspeak links simply to annoy ?
looks like it
fail
Apr 9, 2020 at 4:59 PM tomo

Out of curiosity I picked one at random. NASA Goddard
One of the Authors is B. Cook.
Another of his papers contains this:

https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/authors/bcook.html
"We infer a negative phase of the North Atlantic Oscillation and colder Atlantic sea surface temperatures in the middle of the 15th century, coincident with weaker solar irradiance and prior to strong volcanic forcing associated with the early Little Ice Age."

As Mann's Hockey Stick smashed the LIA and MWP flat, to try and bodge it all, it seems Phil Clarke has picked a NASA Goddard paper, written by someone working under supervision of Hockey Teamster Gavin Schmidt, and the same author has a Peer Reviewed paper that contradicts Mann's Hockey Stick.

I would therefore agree with your analysis tomo. Phil Clarke shoots himself in both feet with one bullet.

I wonder if anyone has ever asked the Royal Society for their honest opinion about the MWP and LIA?

In a refrain that climate change deniers would repeat over and over as mantra, Karlen asserted that the hockey stick contained “neither a Medieval Warm Period nor a Little Ice Age.” Of course, the MBH99 hockey stick showed both; the conclusion that the contrarians really didn’t like was that the medieval warm period, while rivalling mid-twentieth-century warmth in our reconstruction, simply did not reach subsequent levels of warming.

Mann, Michael E. The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars: Dispatches from the Front Lines. Kindle Edition. Page 107.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/shared/articles/littleiceage.pdf

Coughed up £12 to Mann ?

Bought any bridges recently?

If you think knowledge is expensive, try ignorance. ;-)

If you think knowledge is expensive, try ignorance. ;-)

Apr 9, 2020 at 8:39 PM Phil Clarke

Haven't you studied the pretty, colourful Hockey Stick lately?

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/24062019/joe-biden-climate-change-global-warming-election-2020-candidate-profile
Been There
"Among the current candidates, only former Vice President Joseph Biden has debated a Republican opponent during a past contest for the White House—when he was Barack Obama's running mate and took on Sarah Palin in 2008. It's a moment that might come back to haunt him, because in a brief discussion of climate change—a chance to trounce her on the question of science denial or fossil fuel favoritism—he instead slipped into a discussion of what he called "clean coal," which he said he had favored for 25 years. He explained it away as a reference to exporting American energy technology. But his loose language, taken in today's context, sounds archaic."