Martin A & EM

Fishermen have fished in tidal estuary waters that can be fresh, salty, or a bit brackish, changing twice a day for thousands of years.

Apparently fish can swim, and find the right habitat. Tragedies do happen, when storms at sea or land cause exceptional flow, above the normal tidal flows, but other creatures tend to eat up any mess, and are perfectly happy about this form of naturally occurring aquatic pollution.

Having sailed/motored boats from seawater into freshwater and vice versa, many times, I have never seen evidence of a mass extermination event.

Martin A, golf Charlie

Ultimately it is not about how or where you do the extraction. The problem is that the demand for water is going up and, judging from the state of Lake Mead, the total volume available from precipitation and groundwater is going down.

IIRC, if Lake Mead is still below 1075ft asl in January, then a wide range of rationing measures kick in. Watch the fun then.

Hilary Ostrov, thank you for your kind words. I look forward to reading more of your scientific observations and comments from the other side of the pond (and up a bit)

I don't think Trudeau Junior is likely to be hoping for a Trump win. It will wreck his chances for a second term, if he is seen to be holding back the Canadian Economy.

I don't think Trudeau Junior is the only Premier in the world, thinking exactly the same. Hopefully Trump can achieve what is needed within a single term.

Martin, how do you know those things about him?

And if he wont provide details, what are the policy positions (like detailed tax bands) at https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

Welcome back from your hiatus Hilary Ostrov. I'm actually feeling a little bit guilty because I suspect I may once have written some comment rude to you some years ago in error and without proper justification, and it's been playing on my mind since. Even if my memory is deficient or you didn't read it, I'll apologise anyway just in case.

I followed up the detail behind his [Trump's] California drought comments. He was making promises to deliver water that does not exist. The only way to increase the water supply to one group of Californians is to take it away from another group of Californians.
May 30, 2016 at 4:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterEntropic man

On a day to day basis, he certainly cannot magic water from the air. But there is plenty of water in California that is untapped and not used by other Californians. It requires building some dams and other hydro-engineering projects.
Environmentalists are not using that water, nor any other Californians. It will take some time and money. If done sensibly, the environmental costs will also probably be much less than the greens claim: Fish ladders for the salmon are a tourist attraction at Ballard Locks in Seattle.

The fish turn out to be irrelevant.

Yes. Trump would likely put people before fishes. Fishes don't vote yet, not even in California. Californians need to get a grip, and not be led by an environmental ring through the nose.

michael hart, let us not forget that the Australians are finding some of their desalinators to be surplus to requirements, and might need to sell them unused, but second hand, to reduce debt.

You would have thought the Malthusian tendencies of the Green Blob would be celebrating the inability of rainfall to keep up with an increasing population's ever increasing demand for water.

I think that some 'Environmentalists' are like fish out of water, when lecturing others about the perils faced by fish in water. Soon they will be campaigning for supplies of arm-bands to stop fish from drowning.

So EM says "What is very clear about Trump is that he makes promises which are impossible to deliver."

EM is hopelessly naive, just look at Obama's record in office. Why should Trump be held to a higher standard of truthfulness than the darling of the eco-Fascist brigades?

And Adams bases this on what, exactly?

So a hypnotist, A HYPNOTIST!!, is qualified to make quasi-medical calumnies about political opponents and be praised and lauded for doing so here. Weeeeeelllllll.

Alan Kendall, you never know, climate scientists will have psychologists writing 97% of their most popular work soon.

Perhaps as a hypnotist, Adams is used to looking into people's eyes? Don't trust me though, I am not a Doctor either.

RC. The political mud was flung by Adams and repeated here, without supporting proof. I asked for supporting evidence and was supplied with statements that Adams is a hypnotist, and this presumably was evidence of Adams' great acumen and political insider knowledge (you really couldn't make it up!). I express incredulity and now you come on all heavy, demanding from me evidence to prove the slurs given by Adams were untrue, and furthermore accuse little ol' moi of making unfounded accusations. It is we here at BH who are encouraged to be skeptical. I was being skeptical, then mirthful, finally incredulous.

Come on man, get a grip!

Has your great love of the hairstyle du jour tripped your critical faculties? From this viewpoint.......

En passant Never trust a man who won't have a drink with you, (or has a hair style that could be patented).

Stewgreen. Please don't write of Robert in those negative terms (dramaqueening). He's merely trying to support an unsupportable argument. I'm sure he won't appreciate you butting in like this, even though he might be an ABBA fan.

With regard to successful predictions about Trump, battles and wars come to mind. One successful prediction does not make a seer. Good to hear that you take hypnotism seriously as your compardres. Do you use it to convince yourself about Brexit?

Would you support someone who wouldn't have a drink with you?