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Discussion > Drs against Diesel : A subsidy mafia Front

The Yorkshire Post also carries the same story as the Times
..The words and order are almost the same
... with no byline

Both articles seem a simple edit of the same PR handout

(the story does not say it's syndicated content or anything like that)

Oct 30, 2018 at 3:12 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

stewgreen

I've followed up a selection of these unattributed / no byeline stories in local rags about public health (air pollution, viruses, alcohol, vaping) and the one common factor for a fair chunks of the verbiage is The Press Association.

That said - 3 or 4 years back I was annoyed enough about an anonymously authored stupid scare story / misrepresentation to buttonhole the editor of the local rag who held his hands up and said that the articles were essentially placed into the regional fleet from the NewsQuest mothership and he claimed to know little / nothing about the provenance.

I've noticed that the industrial trade press has spasms of AGW / Climate Change / Renewable-itis across titles in the fleets of other publishers as well - occasionally causing them to shut down on-line comments critical of the actions/statements.

Mind you - that's an improvement of of sorts over The Independent who put up toxic bollocks under made up names on a regular basis.

Oct 30, 2018 at 6:05 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Heh, it's 'fake news', detectable in part because it's not news, rather the raspy repetition of a broken record.
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Nov 1, 2018 at 6:55 PM | Unregistered Commenterkim

It looks like The Guardian is going for a grand unifying theory atmospheric pollution causes childhood obesity

Nov 4, 2018 at 10:29 PM | Registered Commentertomo

@Tomo that's made it today to The Mail on Sunday
looking like the Guardian Lite
- Michael Mosely column : *Warning* Air Pollution makes you fat
(I never noticed that in Delhi, and Beijing)
- Cruise giants sail into a SULPHUROUS storm.. cruise ships buying scrubbers "the vast majority divert waste into the sea"
... and 4 other eco stories.

Nov 11, 2018 at 7:19 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

pg4 today's Times
Autism ‘more likely near busy roads’
Chris Smyth, Health Editor

quotes within article from 2 experts
#1 James Cusack, of the British research charity Autistica, said:
“This study does not provide evidence that air pollution causes autism.”
#2 Rosa Hoekstra of King’s College London said:
"We can’t tell from this study whether it is the air pollutant or something else that actually causes any increase in autism risk"
"the increase in risk was only very slight:
- around 1% of children had an autism diagnosis.
- The odds of autism in children prenatally exposed to higher levels of nitric oxide was still only 1.07%"

Nov 20, 2018 at 4:22 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

pg11 claim O2 Nose Filters filter 90% and 70% large/small particles

...still means that if you passed a hotspot twice youd get 140% of the particles of someone who passes it just once.

Nov 20, 2018 at 4:57 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

YP gives Client Earth a long column for propaganda
"Clean Air Parents Network" ..'think of the children' PR spin

Nov 21, 2018 at 3:38 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

pollution scaremongering has caused the highways agency to plan giant PLASTIC shelters over motorways that are near houses

..like giant bus shelters the NO2 is supposed to bounce off in the other direction.
Hmm I guess they wont neat the wind.

Nov 24, 2018 at 12:16 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

won't beat the wind

Nov 24, 2018 at 12:38 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

The Highways Agency?

Highways England please - they turned it into a "government company" where on trivial inspection it's easy to see they loaded a few pointless oxygen thieves into the upper tiers of an already top heavy government department - and pushed them a further distance away from actual oversight....

The polytunnels for motorways are simply ridiculous - the people proposing them should be obliged to submit stuff like this to a public review process

Nov 24, 2018 at 2:43 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Times letter from Astgma UKs research director
UK has worse asthma cure rate than rest of EU
..lAck of basic care etc.
ends by calling for new Clean Air Act

I reject those simple narratives
eg is UK worse than Europe's ?
are diagnoses accurate ?

Nov 30, 2018 at 4:46 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Interesting that the account https://www.twitter.com/AirFairy04 CleanAir 2 Breathe seems clearly a PR thing , probably pushing EVs etc.
Yet it just tweeted me a government poster condemning Wood stoves
as generating 38% of PM2.5

OK that is just one of the 6 main air pollution metrics

Dec 11, 2018 at 2:41 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

\\ One in eight deaths in India due to air pollution: Lancet

says study by ICMR, PHFI and Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), in collaboration with the Health Ministry.
The findings have also been published in The Lancet Planetary Health..//

hmm too extraordinary to be true ?
#1 You don't present data that way
#2 ..cos it implies that with clean air India would have a population 1/8th bigger

Of course pollution affects Indians health.
.. maybe knocking 2 years off lifespan .. possibly
ah less than that cos for Delhi they say 1.7 years

\\ As the WHO report points out, a huge contributor to the literally eye watering amounts of pollution in India's smaller cities are cottage industries like brick kilns, textiles (leather, bleaching, dyes etc), print and paper etc.
Then there are families having to burn dung or other solid fuel for cooking and heating, a widespread lack of toilets / sanitation and insufficient traffic management.//
Times
only 8 comments and they mock greens

Dec 12, 2018 at 6:09 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

The Times PR guys are back with 2 items on page 6
- Britain in electric slow lane after grant cut (to £3,500/car)
- Worse diesel cars emit toxic fumes , 11 times the limit.
Surely a trick test
#1 They only talk about NOx
#2 They pick specific hot spot locations
one imagines that is a busy junction and that a quick spurt up a clear road pushes down a cars average
Quotes charity ICCT
..Theres a Times leader as well, that complains about the subsidy cut.

Dec 19, 2018 at 4:18 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Biz "but Mayor Khan you pollution charge will be like a road poll tax to us"
Sadiq "Don't worry guys Ive got £23m from the magic money tree to throw at you"

Times : White van man is being offered a reprieve from daily pollution charges of £12.50 under plans to improve air quality with a vehicle scrappage scheme.

Small businesses employing fewer than ten people will be able to apply for a grant to help them to switch from a diesel van with high emissions to one of the cleanest new models.

Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, announced the £23 million scrappage scheme after being accused of threatening the viability of small businesses under plans to introduce an ultra-low emission zone in central London on April 8 next year

Hes asked Michael Gove for the government to add another£23m of matching.
FFS thats £46m off the taxpayers.

Dec 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Jan 1st Sadiq spends £8m putting 8 tonnes of particulates in the London atmosphere ..fireworks
April 19th He'll be charging diesel cars £12.50/day, large vans £100/day £200 for lorries
to keep the pollution out of the air
..great he'll be able to buy more fireworks .
#2 The 2018 fireworks were in the shape of giant EU flag etc.
So amounted to a giant Anti-Brexit advert funded with taxpayer money.

Mirror \\ The New year display on the Thames used 8 tons of fireworks. £3m of pollution for 5 mins of gratification just so the UK can tell the world we can make as big a splash as you.
New Year 2019: Sadiq Khan trolls Theresa May with blatant anti-Brexit fireworks
London's mayor doubled down to defend the "spectacular" New Year's Eve 2019 fireworks display - which came with a not-so-subtle message on the London Eye//

Sadiq tweeted

Sending a message across the globe: London's diversity will always be our strength.
Our one million *EU* citizens are Londoners, they make a huge contribution, and no matter the outcome of Brexit - they will always be welcome.
Happy New Year, London. 🇪🇺#LondonIsOpen #LondonNYE
Why say *EU* instad of "people from all over Europe"
The Firework display amounts to a tapayer funder Reaminer advert

some replies :
Can u tell me why ur London Mayor sets a tax for people driving their car into LONDON to cut down on pollution, THEN he lets off 8tonnes fireworks, do these fireworks not have any pollution to the LONDONERS then?

Idiot who increases congestion charging in London for pollution, puts the EU on London Eye for fireworks display that causes pollution in the UK. Irony rolled over in its grave!

This is not just fog you're seeing over Houston - it's HAZARDOUS levels of smoke pollution left over from last night's fireworks and trapped near the ground. Do not breathe this air. Stay inside if at all possible. http://abc13.com/weather

Sadiq's previous anti pollution tweets tweet #1

Tweet #2 - From April Sadiq will introduce the diesel congestion charge
as he pretends to care about pollution

DW repeated theor 2017 article : Each NYE Germany puts 4,500 tons of fine dust particulates in the air.
"This corresponds to about 15.5 percent of the particulate matter emitted by road traffic each year,"
The effect depends whether there is wind or rain
(If we go with the flakey stat of pollution causing the equivalent of 40K UK deaths/year , then fireworks could cause 6,200 in UK)

Hmm I wonder if the Gatwick drones caused a noticeable drop in air pollution

Jan 1, 2019 at 10:55 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Just mebbe - Sadiq's extension of the congestion zone will trigger a few people.

The knock-on is non trivial as an awful lot of London's service infrastructure (75% at a guess) is from outside town - I will be adding a 10% handling fee for charged trips inside the zone.

I earnestly hope that the shortarsed weasel gets his comeuppance over this latest bit of banditry.

I wonder if Sadiq has his own armed security detail.

Jan 2, 2019 at 1:16 AM | Registered Commentertomo

I see it's claimed that more people in London voted to leave the EU than actually voted for Khan.

Jan 2, 2019 at 2:57 AM | Registered Commentertomo

"2018 sales of new diesel cars are down by 30%"
Doh a number of factors but 2 stand out
#1 the huge demonisation with the #DieselsRpaedos PR campaign

#2 Manufacturers have suspended release of some new models cos they are waiting for new EU car models testing regime slots

Jan 7, 2019 at 1:31 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

IMHO today's air quality is a minor problem, but is being utilized as a PR front by a number of parties
#1 EV subsidy biz
#2 People using it for politics ie Sadiq Khan is using it to bash the Tories
"Look at me I'm cleaning the air"

That's fallacious cos tech means engines get ever cleaner anyway

Sadiq's campaign centres around his ULEZs he swore that first zone would only affect a small number of people just 60K/day
Today's news is that actually cos most people don't enter the zone each day , that 60K is quite different each day , so in fact it will affect 2.5m vehicles in total
and that is for the 2019 zone
The much bigger 2021 zone is about 15 times bigger, so maybe half the vehicles in the country might enter it at some point.

Jan 9, 2019 at 1:35 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Today's news about Jaguar Landrover cutting 4,000 UK jobs could be put down as a win for the EV subsidy biz and their #DieselsRaedos PR campaign
Sure it will have cut UK sales
... however no IMHO, JLR has quite low sales in the UK so the main reason would be to do with other factors that the UK sales.

The only thing is UK gov could have shown more support for diesel as it gets ever cleaner,
but UK politicians raely do the right thing.

Jan 11, 2019 at 9:44 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Times DieselsRpaedos stories
page 5
#1 2013 Kissi death mother wins right to new inquest.

#2 lifts Guardian story Matthew Fuller says raised nitro levels increase by 16% chance of miscarriage Salt Lake CITY
Dr Stock criticised
Correlation study of course !

pg22 15 year old black taxis will be exempt from ULEZ charges

Jan 12, 2019 at 3:04 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Meanwhile, underground:

//
Pollution in tube stations 30 times higher than beside busy roads in capital, experts say

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/09/london-underground-air-pollution-report-concerns-northern-line-particulates

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/particulate-air-pollution-on-london-underground-health-effects
//

Jan 12, 2019 at 9:28 PM | Unregistered Commenternot banned yet

The BBC attempts a funeral for diesel cars and bigs up Sidiq's shitty banditry.

Jan 15, 2019 at 10:28 PM | Registered Commentertomo