Guys, please stay on topic .. you posted in the wrong thread

@Mark Hodgson, writes: It appears RT have that story correctly
Charity worker provokes outrage with Farage attack tweet
‘I'd prefer ACID but milkshakes will do’

Also : Bristol Post

I can't find it on the BBC website, not even having drilled down to the Bristol section of their site. I accept that in many ways it's a trivial story, and not especially newsworthy, but it's interesting to see how the BBC views the world.

I imagine, had this been a tweet from a "far right" person in the event of a similar acid attack on a left-wing politician, it would have been reported by the BBC promptly and prominently.

That last point is pure speculation, I accept, but what we do know is that the BBC deems that story not to be newsworthy while regarding the following stories from the Bristol area to be sufficiently newsworthy to be reported:

Drunk Avon and Somerset officer groped two women

Body image photos to promote mental health week

The Gay Bikers Motorcycle Club members' stories

I appreciate that any news editor has to make difficult decisions about which stories to include and which to omit.
Unfortunately the BBC news editors will
- ALWAYS include some stories on a repetitious basis
...  while always ignoring stories of other types.

I put Mark's words through an online html editor
it put (p) tags in,
If I post in BiasedBBC.org , it just strips off the (p) tags automatically

..but here I deleted them so the page didn't look screwed up

BP shareholders vote for climate change resolution

Shareholders have overwhelmingly voted for a climate change resolution at the BP's AGM.

The resolution, which was proposed by a group of investors called Climate Action 100+, will mean the oil giant must set out a business strategy consistent with the goals of the Paris Agreement to keep global warming to well below 2 degrees centigrade.

Stephanie Pfeifer, a member of the global Climate Action 100+ steering committee, said investors "will pay close attention to how it addresses emissions across its full value chain and expect to see clear evidence that any future material capex investment is consistent with the goals of the Paris Agreement.

This poses an interesting dilemma for the BP board. They are supposed to comply with shareholders' instructions, but are also supposed to act in the shareholders' best interests. What do they do when shareholders instruct them to act in a way that isn't in shareholders' best interests?

Another from Mark
Storm Desmond: Study says flood was 'largest in 600 years'

Floods that hit northern England during Storm Desmond were the most extreme in 600 years, a new study claims,

Researchers compared sediment from Bassenthwaite Lake in Cumbria, taken after the December 2015 storm, with records dating back 558 years.

The study found larger sediment grains were deposited in the lake from nearby hills and streams, indicating recent flooding was much more extreme.

Storm Desmond led to thousands of homes and businesses being flooded.

....Richard Chiverrell, professor of physical geography at Liverpool University's School of Environmental Sciences, said: "A distinct layer of coarser sediment is left in the lake sediment record as material washes in from the surrounding hills and streams providing researchers with a means of recording each flood event.

"Sediment layers with the largest grain sizes reflect flooding that was higher energy and more extreme in magnitude.

"The unprecedented nature of the recent phase of extreme floods accords with statements from the Environment Agency that climate changes and associated impacts on the frequency and magnitude of extreme events are one of the greatest challenges facing our society.

"By establishing long term flood frequency models that use both sediment records and river flow data, we hope to be able to improve our ability to quantify flood risk and better support flood risk management in the UK and more widely."

Storm Desmond was certainly very bad and had dramatic consequences here in Cumbria. But worst in 600 years? Based both on local oral history and local history books, that seems like a strong claim. Also, if it's the worst in 600 years, that suggests there was a worse event 600 or more years ago, so what's with the claim that it's "unprecedented".

AK - your views regarding the methodology and accuracy of the claims made here would be greatly appreciated.

Climate protests held at BP AGM in Aberdeen

Oil giant BP has held its annual general meeting in Aberdeen for the first time, amid climate change protests.

About 30 campaigners gathered outside the exhibition and conference centre with banners on Tuesday morning.

Some later had to be escorted out of the building after disrupting proceedings, shouting "this is a crime scene".

It came amid an AGM debate over how the company tackles climate change.

BP said it aimed to play its part in the transition to greener energy.

There were also activist protests at Royal Dutch Shell's annual shareholder meeting in Scheveningen in the Netherlands.

"About 30 campaigners". This is the problem.

Small numbers of zealots get maximum publicity, leading to the belief that there are more of them than there are, and that the problem must be real and worse than anyone had imagined

British bird populations soaring

Research from the British Trust for Ornithology reveals that the populations of some species of birds have increased due to more bird feeders.

In fairness to the BBC, they are only reporting what the BTO has said, but isn't it revealing? Bird numbers fall - climate change must be the reason.

 Bird numbers rise - due to more bird feeders, climate change not an issue, obviously.

@Mark what I am finding is that your opion is useful
but that the BBC text is not..if I want it I can just read the link

If you tweet the link and your opinion it has the same effect and automatically makes a clickable link
This is your piece in on Tweet form
oh bum this time it doesn't give us a preview image ..that is something to do with Newsround's settings

eg 2 The BBC singers one
I get the BBC url and paste it nto the twitter search box
that gets me to the BBC Scotland story
so instead of your opinion going into thin air, we can click reply and be in on the main discussion
Here's our tweet

You also get better presentation by posting on Facebook
eg post to andrew montford
or just create a group BBC Climate stories
Here's Your post

BTW BBC You and Yours has just done the birdfeeder item
site

@MH Yes I noticed that 3 of the online editors had problems in handling blockquotes
When I highlighed a paragraph to bq
They'd blockquote the entire page instead
and I' have to move the tags myself

But I found this editor handles them fine 4html.net

Yes you just putting your own comment works better for me
cos I don't have to trawl thru all the BBC words then

Chris Packham says Spring is getting earlier cos of CC
but birds are arriving later cos of "weather"

Ian M says
\\ Springwatch. First episode Monday night, BBC2.
You will recall that we have been relentlessly informed for years that spring is getting earlier and earlier due to “climate change” and indeed viewers have been encouraged to send in their stories about how such-and-such a tree is in flower or a bird or butterfly appears earlier and earlier in the calendar.

Without the merest scintilla of embarrassment, however, Packham reported how, in 2019, various birds such as the cuckoo and swallows were actually two weeks later than average but this was simply down to an unusual phenomenon called “weather”.

One is inevitably led to the conclusion that, in recent decades, all changes were due to “climate change” but in 2019 – no siree!!! – it is simply “weather”.//

The graphs are here
BTO man on Springwatch blogs

But the DM notes
Where have all the swallows gone? Millions of European birds are being trapped in Chinese nets, slaughtered and eaten as they pass through Egypt
The RSPB says swallows should start arriving in March, and now it's May

I copied this from Bbbc
business-48337819/is-this-house-really-zombie-proof

Quite an interesting little piece on a largely self-contained, (tiny) pre-fabricated ‘house’
(I’d say shelter/cabin), largely powered by solar panels.

‘This house is built in one piece using this polymer composite’
… err… firstly, what is pictured is not a polymer composite at all, it’s the sprayed polyurethane component of a polymer based composite,
what is the other (more interesting) part of the composite?
By definition you can’t have a ‘composite’ made out of a single component.

Secondly, polyurethane is a plastic, and a single use, non-recyclable one which is hazardous to the environment
(let alone taking centuries to break down in the ocean),
aren’t we supposed to be banning those, not making ‘houses’ out of them?

Thirdly, why aren’t they querying what the propellant is in the foam?
The guy who owns the company making these sounds East European to me
… CFCs are the cheapest and most effective propellent option
, and Chinese manufactured CFCs are supposed to be making a resurgance in East European manufacturing processes recently (competing on cost with the Chinese who are quite happy to use CFCs).

In case anyone has forgotten CFCs (Chloroflourocarbons) were the cause of the holes in the ozone layer
… and (unlike carbon dioxide) a very serious concern, hence them being banned (a ban China prefer to ignore).

Lot of (highly relevant) questions left unanswered there.
- Do the BBC have any technically/scientifically qualified journalists?
- Do the BBC really know what they’re talking about?

PS ‘Water recycling means there is no need for an external supply’ pictures a tiny three stage RO (Reverse Osmosis) unit, and ion exchange column on the wall
… err… what happens when those columns need recharging and replacing? Not so environmentally friendly
and ‘self contained’ then hey?
Is there a massive storehouse full of replacement columns attached?
… and surely ‘recycled’ water will diminish over time,
as the inhabitants perspire and respire it out, only so much goes back down the toilet… talking about which, what happens to the ‘solid waste’ from the toilet?
Plenty of water flushing that down too (I hope).

So many questions, so few answers.

@Radical you ar right to refuse not to take things at face-value
but conspiracy theories need evidence.

Is it news or PR ?
Is the news of Electric buses in Newcastle national news ?
No other towns have electric buses
So this is just regional news
..on a national page it counts as PR
Bus operator Go North East is to introduce its first all-electric services next year.

It is part of a £12m investment in a new fleet of environmentally-friendly vehicles, which includes nine electric and 34 low-emission busses (pictured).

Most of the new buses will start operating in September in Newcastle, Sunderland and Durham, with electric vehicles due to be on the road by July 2020.

MD Martijn Gilbert said: “If we are serious about improving air quality then we have to properly embrace public transport and tackle rising congestion.

"These buses represent a major investment from us as we continue to play our part in supporting the mass mobility and connectivity of the communities we serve by providing high quality, dependable and green public transport services."

short one, with a video for good measure:

How do we tackle climate emergency in Wales?"
Almost £1bn a year should be set aside by the Welsh Government for tackling climate change, one of its top advisers has urged.

Future Generations Commissioner Sophie Howe said current funding for cutting emissions was "nowhere near enough".

Last month, Environment Minister Lesley Griffiths announced plans for a legally-binding target for a 95% cut in greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, after declaring a climate emergency in May.

The Welsh Government said we must "continuously raise our level of ambition".

BBC Wales Environment Correspondent Steffan Messenger looks at the ideas being discussed such as more public transport, better home insulation, planting trees.

News or PR ?
Cumbria coal mine: a well-paid job that's bad for the planet
Cumbria is reopening a coal mine. The mine will create at least 500 well-paid jobs, but there is a large environmental impact. Would you take a job at the mine?

Kenny, 21, from Cumbria is facing this decision. He meets James, also 21, an environmental activist, to debate their conflicting opinions.
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UK climate emergency: What does it mean for how we live?

The article does make some faint effort to point out the difficulties of reducing CO2 emissions,
but (probably inevitably) is generally an upbeat and unrealistic piece of advertising for "greenery".

[How do they think they will make the steel for wind turbines without using coal?].

Come on Radical you are better than that
I was referring to
"My own suspicions was that it was just a trial run, to see how gullible the general population was,
and how much they can be manipulated."
You gave me a theory and conjecture
but not actual evidence to support that theory.