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The total votes are as follows:
Conservative – 13,941,086 votes
Labour – 10,292,354
Liberal Democrat – 3,675,342
Scottish National Party – 1,242,380
So a majority (15 million votes) were for parties either supporting Remain or a second referendum, and this is a landslide for Brexit?
Defend that if you can.
Sorry for you Phil. this was a general election. Not a Brexit or Indyref2 neverendum.
You snooze you lose.
Sorry for you Clipe, in Scotland the SNP won the overwhelming number of seats both in the general election and the Scottish election. In a multi-party and a FPTP system, a 45% vote share is “dominant” in most people’s book. Sorry that you don’t want to understand.
The SNP want a second referendum, 45% vote share in a referendum is a failure in a referendum, just because in FPTP its gets them more seats does not give them a mandate. A couple of years ago the SNP's own criteria for calling on a second referendum was a series of 60+% in the opinion polls, that has conveniently disappeared since the SNP and Independence got stuck on 45% in the opinion polls and the elections.
AK, I do sympathise with the people of Scotland, and I am typing this in Scotland!
What is the Divorce Settlement that the SNP used to secure support for Independence? Will Westminster agree to the SNP demands, and if not how will the SNP deal with the shortages of power and money currently being sourced from the UK and EU?
It would take a lot of Global Warming to get Magic Money trees growing in Scotland.
Canada is independent, but Trudeau has seen it as his role to attack Trump. Canadians are realising that Trudeau is not good for Canadian lifestyles, no matter how many times Trudeau tells them that Trump is the problem.
conversely Canada seems quite good for Justin's lifestyle - I see he's off smokin' dope in the Caribbean until 2020?
Sorry for you Clipe, in Scotland the SNP won the overwhelming number of seats both in the general election and the Scottish election. In a multi-party and a FPTP system, a 45% vote share is “dominant” in most people’s book. Sorry that you don’t want to understand.
Dec 27, 2019 at 8:25 AM | Unregistered CommenterAk
Sorry for you AK, the vote was for parliamentary representation, not some Mel Gibson movie.
The Scots have a habit of voting with their feet.
Dems said impeachment was urgent.
- But now they're refusing to send their own articles to the Senate.
Dems said their case was compelling.
- But now they want the Senate to do more investigating.
That is quite a hole they're digging.
I thought the Dems had more sense ... I was wrong.
Clipe indeed it was an overwhelming vote in support of SNP parliamentary representation (for those running with a manifesto that demands a new independence referendum). There is a great deal of difference between 1) voting for the SNP, 2)voting for the right to hold an independence referendum and 3) actually voting for independence. My original comments concerned 1 and 2. You incorrectly chose to believe I supported 3. Having watched Quebec since the 1970s, I am very aware that support for a separatist political party does not always translate into support for separation itself.
Article which ignores election results in Scotland:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/12/two_possibilities_in_trump_wiretapping_and_neither_is_good.html#.XgaSU0a-dYk.twitter
Joe Biden thinks Bolivia borders Venezuela.
Perhaps he was confused by the full name - República Bolivariana de Venezuela.
Dec 29, 2019 at 12:53 PM tomo
Dec 29, 2019 at 2:52 PM Ak
If Venezuela has finally become too hot as a political potato, Corbyn could be persuaded to withdraw to a seaside beach retirement home in Bolivia, taking his entire Shadow Cabinet Team with him.
Trump and BoJo would oppose this move, as they have all done so much to boost UK/US Trade Deals.
Nah... Joe seems quite assured when talking about it.
Dec 29, 2019 at 6:22 PM tomo
Perhaps someone could sell Biden a Bolivian seaside mansion next to the Islington Marxist People's Unpopular Revolutionary Front?
gc
Biden is getting increasingly embarrassing - he might just be a placeholder for a late front runner entrant (to avoid DJT wrangling, a strategy to constrain a shorter campaign) - but if the DNC really think he's their best shot .... oh boy...
I thought seaside mansions were an Obamah thing?
tomo, Biden has now volunteered to have his recollections placed under Republican scrutiny
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/29/joe-biden-indicates-would-testify-donald-trump-impeachment-trial/
Democrats may be concerned about what he actually recollects without straying off the message that Democrats had previously explained to him.
tomo, Obama knows his beach side residence is perfectly safe. He had a Fifth Columnist Hockey Teamster as his Science Advisor, and neither Paul Ehrlich nor any of his disciples should ever be trusted to get anything right
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren
"Holdren was involved in the famous Simon–Ehrlich wager in 1980. He, along with two other scientists helped Paul R. Ehrlich establish the bet with Julian Simon, in which they bet that the price of five key metals would be higher in 1990. The bet was centered around a disagreement concerning the future scarcity of resources in an increasingly polluted and heavily populated world. Ehrlich and Holdren lost the bet, when the price of metals had decreased by 1990"
Gosh, 'ole Joe is ramping it up!
@JoeBiden on fossil fuel execs:
“We should put them in jail” for pollution.
bit close to home / a foot shot ? - just a bit?
Dec 30, 2019 at 8:10 PM tomo
Biden believes that senior Democrats are entitled to be both Judge and Jury, based on zero evidence and no trial. He should have been a top Climate Scientist.
well, there's one Democrat POTUS candidate who can walk and chew gum at the same time.
-GC. The SNP manifesto called for a referendum upon Scottish independence to be held in 2020. The GE results clearly indicate support for the SNP is dominant within Scotland. Boris doesn't appear to be listening to the Scots who voted last week.
Dec 19, 2019 at 5:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK
Dominant?
https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/13/percentage-votes-per-party-won-popular-vote-general-election-11898913
What percentage of votes did each party get in the General Election? At the time of writing, the total vote share – according to the BBC – In Scotland, SNP gained 45% of the total vote share, followed by Conservative (25.1%) and Labour (18.6%)
Last time I looked. 25.1 + 18.6 = 43.7.