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Trouble is, if you have to commit fraud to try and prove fraud, it is likely there was no fraud.
Sep 29, 2020 at 8:03 AM Phil Clarke
Democrats have fraudulently claimed the fraudulent Steele Dossier, was true, when they knew it wasn't, having paid for it, and Russian collusion.
The Kremlin Is Increasingly Alarmed at the Prospect of a Biden Win
yesterday Pelosi :“the question is what does Putin have on the president politically, personally, financially.”
Not really listened to Ihlan Omar or looked at her back story and the local political landscape in her district have you Clarky ?
So... we get conflation of national issues with local ones (by both sides) and hair splitting from local Dems in Minneapolis.
The bragging dope with a pile of ballots on the dashboard of his car - it does matter who he works for and who's paying him - that Slevin fellow runs away / deflects from that self evident fact - why might that be? The overarching question really is - is he a false flag or is he genuine?
As for Ms. Gabbard - there's one elected representative who's likely confident that she doesn't have to kowtow to a corrupt cabal divvying out Represenative gigs and won't be bullied by the DNC controllers. There are conservative (small c) Democrats who have been targeted by leftists who would rather keep their heads down....
The bragging dope with a pile of ballots on the dashboard of his car
Not familar with O Keefe's way with an edit and a faked voiceover, then eh Tomo?
Reps. Tulsi Gabbard (D) and Rodney Davis ( R) are introducing a bill to 'to improve the security of the mail-in ballot process.' by banning so-called 'ballot harvesting', that is collection of ballots from voters for delivery to polling venues. The aim being to help enfranchise housebound and invalid people.
Gabbard provides no examples of abuse and Davis says
We’ve seen ballot harvesting widely used in states like California and a recent court case in North Carolina outlined the clear opportunities for fraud and coercion with the ballot harvesting process.
But there were no substantiated instances of fraud in California, and collection is already banned in North Carolina. The fraud case there came to light because the existing measures worked. In fact collection is currently banned in nearly half of states amd those that permit it have antifraud measures in place, usually restricting bearers to single-figure numbers of ballots.
It is a non-issue. I guess Gabbard is supporting the bill to deprive Team Trump of an excuse if they lose by a small margin.
Sep 29, 2020 at 9:03 AM Phil Clarke
Climate Science can't survive without dishonesty at the highest level
https://youtu.be/mqMMPP39Xh8
Clarky
have you ever run for an elected position?
Faked voiceover is worthy of a link innit?
elsewhere - you need to work on continuity ....
The overarching question really is - is the bragging dope a false flag or is he genuine? - looks like you have no interest in that.
The overarching question really is - is the bragging dope a false flag or is he genuine? - looks like you have no interest in that.
Odd attempt to frame the issue. That is the overarching question? A bloke has some envelopes in a car, he claims the voiceover is not him, the commentary lies about his employment, he is not committing a crime, the videographer has a long and undistinguished of doctoring videos and other dishonest, unethical and illegal behaviour.
Worthy of a link? Nope. I've already spent more time on this than it merits.
Joe Biden just announced that he will not agree to a Drug Test. Gee, I wonder why?
Vice-President Biden intends to deliver his debate answers in words. If the president thinks his best case is made in urine he can have at it. We’d expect nothing less from Donald Trump, who pissed away the chance to protect the lives of 200K Americans when he didn’t make a plan to stop Covid-19.
Few in the US media looking to find and interview the fake voter fraud guy - huh?
Should be really easy to sink the tale and finish off O'Keefe for good - if we hear the guys voice?
"he's innocent and the whole thing's a fraud" - time to nail down which way round that is isn't it?
Clarky:
"I've already spent more time on this than it merits."
fuck off you twerp
Should be really easy to sink the tale and finish off O'Keefe for good
O Keefe is the bought and paid for propaganda arm of Team Trump. His credibility disappeared down the plughole some years ago.
HTH.
First to insult usually is losing the argument.
Sep 29, 2020 at 10:05 AM Phil Clarke
Did you understand credibility before you took on professional propaganda for Climate Science?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/190866856624668672
Obama has a neat backup plan ;-)
Even the local Fox TV subsidiary fails to back Veritas.
I posted above I'd wasted too much time on this, that now goes double. Signing off on this one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong
Calling the AG -
https://alphanewsmn.com/lawmaker-asks-barr-to-investigate-systemic-voter-fraud-allegations-against-omar/
Meanwhile in Texas:
https://amgreatness.com/2020/09/28/bidens-texas-political-director-implicated-in-massive-mail-in-ballot-harvesting-scheme-in-harris-county/
Texas - class action suit filed:
https://nationalfile.com/bidens-texas-political-director-accused-of-illegal-ballot-harvesting-at-texas-supreme-court/
How to get Muslims into power -
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/07/building-power-muslims-politics-robert-spencer/
Ilhan Omar and friends -
https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/08/31/ilhan-omar-calls-for-protection-of-somali-organization-known-for-financing-terrorism/
How to deal with O'Keefe -
"What’s most disturbing, though, is that there’s a totalitarian quality to the way Lauren Windsor, the Executive Director for American Family Voices, is trying to silence O’Keefe. Because she cannot challenge his facts, she’s hoping to use New York’s police state to impose fines on him so heavy that he will be forced into silence. It sounds more like Soviet Family Voices than anything connected with America."
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/09/james_okeefes_enemies_are_trying_to_use_the_police_state_to_stop_him.html
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/07/building-power-muslims-politics-robert-spencer/
I'm a tolerant guy, but that crosses a line. Adieu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer
Wrong link, the point stands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_B._Spencer
Is this the line crossed?
"“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”"
These people in power would be good for democracy.
"However, it was not simply a “conspiracy theory” that, as the Christian Post reported, “while a student at the University of Michigan, El-Sayed was ‘an active member’ and vice-president of the Muslim Students’ Association (MSA) – a group founded mainly by members of the Muslim Brotherhood for the express purpose of spreading Wahhabist ideology — an austere form of Islam that insists on literal interpretation of the Quran and views those who disagree as enemies."
That's a total of one Democrat, and she and her cosponsor provide little or no evidence of a widespread problem.
Elsewhere the latest O Keefe /Veritas fakery has now pretty much totally unravelled. It revolved around covert footage and audio of Liban Mohamed, who the piece claimed worked for Ilhan Omar's team, and seemed to show him talking about collecting hundreds of ballots.
First Mohamed claimed it was not his voice on the video, and now Newsweek reports he's never worked for the congresswoman.
Oh, and collecting ballots for others is not illegal in Minnesota. Apart from those minor details - another brilliant expose from the fearless Project Veritas!
Said Jeremy Slevin, Senior Comms Director for Omar. Team Trump are alleging, with zero evidence, massive mail ballot fraud (as in 'millions'), getting their excuses in early. Seems Veritas have been tasked - and well paid - to come up with some of that missing evidence.
Trouble is, if you have to commit fraud to try and prove fraud, it is likely there was no fraud.