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Bobu-who? at CNN
"Toobin" on the other hand has nearly 1000 hits
https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/1321454361256615936?s=20
220,000 Americans dead. 12 million unemployed. Millions more facing the loss of their healthcare.
Not sure an interview on Trump TV is going to move the needle very far. To quote the Fox website:
The messages seem to indicate that a meeting took place, though it's unclear what the substance of the meeting may have been.
Oh dear. But, hey, if that's all you have, go with it.....
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Is there a "Biden Foundation"?
Clarky obviously has not watched any Bobulinski content.
The attempted influence peddling is about as clear as it gets.... unless you don't want to look - owwinge-man baad 'n all.
Seems the Bidens also picked (or were picked by) somebody who has "fallen from grace" inside the Chinese Communist Party's roiling power games.
An exploration of Biden contacts within the CCP seems likely to follow.
Agreed, life is too short to watch Tucker on Tsargrad TV. Apparently they don't even know how to work a photocopier. LOL.The sensible null hypothesis is that the Fox precis is accurate and this is yet another nothingburger, like the fake AOC tweet, the fake antifa bus fleet, the fake ballot harvesting, the fake dead voters (etc etc). Or is this there actually some substance this time around? Do tell.
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Clarky prefers repeating CNN talking points Toobin safe space obviously.
Still not watched it have you?
What’s the betting that if Trump loses he will I) go bankrupt (for the ‘n’th time) and 2) eventually be prison bound? I understand that the Trump branding is being removed from all sorts of buildings (in anticipation?)
AK
"I understand that the Trump branding is being removed from all sorts of buildings"
- would that be in anticipation of confusing the rioters?
- probably pointless - as they'll all head over to Walmart and BestBuy - just saying.....
Nothingburger. Fox lost any reputation for objectivity many moons ago. A TV interview is one thing but when Bobulinski handed over the texts and documents he claimed showed Joe Biden's complicity to the Wall Street Journal, that journal reported that they showed no such thing, saying that the venture in question…
“never received proposed funds from the Chinese company or completed any deals, according to people familiar with the matter. Corporate records reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden, … Text messages and emails related to the venture that were provided to the Journal by Mr Bobulinski, mainly the spring and summer of 2017, don’t show either Hunter Biden or James Biden discussing a role for Joe Biden in the venture.
Another 'bombshell' goes pfffft.
The FBI have had Hunter's laptop since last year and Rudy 'you can give me your phone number' Giuliani gave it to police over a week ago. No arrests so far…..
and the Chateau Marmont CCTV cameras are on the blink
It seems off that Bobulinski attended a meeting with Carlson but it seems he didn't hand-carry the most incriminating documents.
That simply doesn't pass the sniff test.
Murky shit.
Sun Lijun, ex boss of Hunter Biden’s “F**king Spy Chief” Patrick Ho:
Before stepping down as the Dep. Min. of Public Security of China (Mar 28, 2018-Apr 18, 2020) for mishandling the China virus outbreak in Wuhan, Sun had been the chief of MPS’ HK, Macao & Taiwan Office.
The spooks are all over this Biden business and national security (and ahem... dignity) trumps anything like an election sideshow.
Oct 29, 2020 at 1:24 PM tomo
2 points. 1st, Carlson had gone to LA to interview Bobulinski, which suggests that is where Bobulinski was located, and 2nd, there has been no suggestion by Carlson that these missing documents came from Bobulinski. They were passed to a Fox producer in NY by "a source".
As someone who dislikes Trump intensely, but who has no hope of Biden, it's quite amusing watching the two sides here defending their man. If I may say so (I don't suppose it will make me any friends!) both sides seem happily to pounce on anything that backs up their man/piles sh*t on the other man; and both sides similarly seem to rubbish anything that supports the other man or pours sh*t on their man. Not a lot of logic to be seen, and quite a lot of hot air evident.
Sorry, I realise that I've now offended everybody, but as a "neutral" (in the sense of pretty much disliking Trump and Biden equally) that's how it looks to me. I thought UK politics was gut-wrenchingly awful, but by heck I'm glad I'm not an American. 330 million citizens of the USA and those two are the best that they can come up with for President? Good grief!
JR
thanks for that - I wonder if the confusion is deliberate.
Bobulinski in the chat with Carlson repeated several times that the whole business was thoroughly / comprehensively documented - I would expect that Bobulinski's most damaging evidence would be handed to Carlson + crew prior to the meeting, allowing Carlson to formulate questions.
If that producer in NY didn't trot out for a couple of hours to a reprographic bureau and have the docs scanned and replicated across several service providers - well, that'd be simply negligent in the extreme.
I'm too busy to spend more time on this for a while but if the documents are not from Bobulinski - where are they from and what bearing do they have on the matter?
@Mark
not offended here at all ... both men have considerable wardrobes with skeletons in them. The Hunter Biden thing resonates with me as I've spent time watching that sort of influence peddling crowd close up.
"Those two" are what the system has thrown up - but the last few years has demonstrated that they are not unique and that there are other players in the game who easily outclass the pair of them for ghastliness.
From the Continental Telegraph :
Trump the racist -
"I admitted that he had a lot of racist baggage, such as:
During the campaign he bragged about how well he could work with all types of people and proceeded to list several Segregationists he had been tight with in the past.
He was a big supporter of the 1994 crime bill that black leaders have decried as one of the most unjust laws in recent history and which put black men in prison in record numbers.
In the late 70’s he fought against integration and school busing, he even said on camera that he didn’t want his children to grow up in a “racial jungle”.
Recently he claimed that, unlike Hispanics, there is no diversity of thought in the black community, you know, they all think alike."
Not Trump though. Biden.
What about the non-racist Biden?
"As noted in Part 1 we had the lowest black and Hispanic unemployment rate ever recorded.
He supported criminal justice reform that undid a lot of the harm on the 1994 crime bill.
He helped secure more funding for historically black colleges and universities and made it permanent.
In the past he received awards from Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Push coalition.
And, BTW, he was a guest of Bill & Hillary at their daughter’s wedding – did they know he was a racist & invite him anyway?
He has also pardoned or commuted the sentences of numerous black people.
And numerous black men & women have come forward to say, based on years of experience working with him, that he is not a racist (Herschel Walker for one). But, hey, who you going to believe – black people who actually know him well or a white person writing at Salon or the Huff Po?"
Not Biden, though. Trump.
During the campaign he bragged about how well he could work with all types of people and proceeded to list several Segregationists he had been tight with in the past.
I think that refers to this. 'In the past' being the 1970s.
At a Maryland fundraiser Wednesday night, Biden told donors he "detested" the segregationist stances of Eastland and Talmadge. He said he and Sen. Edward Kennedy "had to put up with the likes of like Jim Eastland and Hermy Talmadge and all those segregationists and all of that. And the fact of the matter is that we were able to do it because we were able to win — we were able to beat them on everything they stood for.”“We in fact detested what they stood for in terms of segregation and all the rest," Biden said.
He was a big supporter of the 1994 crime bill that black leaders have decried as one of the most unjust laws in recent history and which put black men in prison in record numbers.
In the 1980s and 1990s violent crime was out of control. The crime bill was designed to deal with that problem. That’s why it was supported overwhelmingly by the Democratic Party, by African American leaders all across the nation, including a majority of the black caucus in the Congress.
-Biden's actual words.
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/07/biden-on-the-1994-crime-bill/
In the late 70’s he fought against integration and school busing, he even said on camera that he didn’t want his children to grow up in a “racial jungle”.
That's a misquote, lacking important context (putting it politely).
the claim that Biden said "I don't want my children to grow up in a jungle, a racial jungle" is false. There is no evidence Biden made that particular remark.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/27/fact-check-post-partly-false-biden-1977-racial-jungle-remark/6045749002/
Biden was in favour of integration, but not mandatory, court-ordered busing. It's a nuanced position, described at length in the NYT.
Notwithstanding his history, I don't think the 2020 version of The Donald is racist - but he knows that a lot of his base are, and so avoids saying anything that might alienate them. We had him calling in 2015 for 'a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States', an aspiration that led to his travel ban, the Mexican rapists, his reluctance to condemn white supremacists (though he's happy to retweet them), and this.
It's been following the Biden bus around.
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