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Nov 4, 2020 at 1:46 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Yeah, it's awful.

Nov 4, 2020 at 5:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Well, we reach the endgame and The Donald has predictably gone full retard.

We have claimed, for Electoral Vote purposes, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (which won’t allow legal observers) the State of Georgia, and the State of North Carolina, each one of which has a BIG Trump lead. Additionally, we hereby claim the State of Michigan if, in fact, there was a large number of secretly dumped ballots as has been widely reported!

1. Candidates do not win States by 'claiming' them. You can claim ham sandwiches, you cannot claim electoral college votes. The people make that particular decision.

2. All the counting stations have bipartisan observers, independent officials and cameras.

3. Not sure how something can at the same time be both secret and widely reported. But then logic was never a prominent component of the Trump skillset.

Biden has Wisconsin and Michigan, I am predicting he will pick up Arizona and Nevada over the next few days giving him the 270. Pennsylvania would be a bonus.

Desperate lawsuits and recounts notwithstanding, Thread Ends.

Nov 4, 2020 at 10:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

No Phil, there will be ample opportunities for regret and recriminations breathing new life into this thread. Gosh, we have the Supreme Court machinations to look forward to, plus the prospect of criminal charges looming. Sharpen up your writing sticks! Get out the popcorn.

Nov 5, 2020 at 7:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterAK

Lying Climate Scientists stole the election ;-)

Nov 5, 2020 at 9:02 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Sooo... you think "President Harris" will be a success ?

well, more fool you.

Vice President Tammy Duckworth or Vice President Tulsi Gabbard I could go with - but do regale us with - what qualifies Harris to be second in command.

Both of you seem consumed by antipathy to Trump and seem to have given near zero thought to what a Biden AN Other POTUS-ship might look like.....

Nov 5, 2020 at 3:05 PM | Registered Commentertomo

She's not Mike Pence.

Nov 5, 2020 at 3:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

If you think that's a recommendation >> well fool you twice.

Nov 5, 2020 at 3:41 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Fooled? Of the two tweets you linked above, one has been deleted and the account suspended, the other was a straightforward lie.

Nov 5, 2020 at 3:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Go on then Clarky do your thing and detail the lie - you being a truth to power expert 'n all.

Only you can't and as usual we'll be treated to a bout of misdirection that is one of your little trademarks

GFY

Nov 5, 2020 at 7:41 PM | Registered Commentertomo

The author himself concedes he was being 'hyperbolic'.

so yes clarification it was hyperbolic to say no postmark it says "no clear postmark"

Nov 5, 2020 at 8:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Blatant avoidance of scrutiny = nothing to see here, move along.

https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1324413645963567104

Maybe in Clarkeland, but not for me.

Nov 5, 2020 at 9:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

She's not Mike Pence.

Nov 5, 2020 at 3:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Her fellatio is better?

Nov 5, 2020 at 9:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1324483841499766785?s=20

https://twitter.com/CLewandowski_/status/1324416428569694212?s=20

Nov 5, 2020 at 11:04 PM | Unregistered Commenter.

There are plenty of Republican observers.

Another milestone along the road to McIntyre's inevitable and complete irrelevance.

Nov 5, 2020 at 11:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

“The lawsuits are meritless,” said Bob Bauer, a legal advisor to Biden’s campaign, and a former White House counsel.

“They’re intended to give the Trump campaign the opportunity to argue that the vote count should stop. It’s not going to stop,” Bauer said.

“I want to emphasize for their purposes these lawsuits don’t have to have merit. That’s not the purpose -- is not to bring bonafide claims before the court, it is to create an opportunity for them to message falsely about what’s taking place in the electoral process.”

There is precisely zero evidence of significant electoral fraud. Trump is losing in a fair fight. Trump is a narcissist. Narcissists, in their own heads, never lose and therefore if they do lose, the game must be rigged.

We're going to win. We're not going to lose this except if they cheat that's the way I look at it.

QED.

Nov 5, 2020 at 11:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

If you have CNN, tune in now. Trump humiliating himself in real time.

Nov 5, 2020 at 11:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1324502930456825856

Nov 6, 2020 at 12:21 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke
Nov 6, 2020 at 1:54 AM | Unregistered Commenter.

From. Scottish Sceptic

The end of the age of democracy

Posted on 5 November 2020 by Pict1

In the 1970s there was a infamous Sun headline: “It was the Sun Wot won it”, referring to their appallingly dishonest electioneering which they blatantly admitted had manipulated people to vote for a party they otherwise would not have done so.

That, was at a time, when there were relatively few newspapers and TV channels and when it was extremely expensive to create an alternative paper or channel by which to get your voice heard. As a result, almost the entire political dialogue was carried out BY JOURNALISTS in THEIR PAPERS. The public were to a very large degree, just bystanders to the debate. And as a result, the subjects focussed on at elections were overwhelmingly the subjects that journalists wanted to discuss. And the press were totally silent on the subjects they didn’t want discussed like the EU or immigration.

Then, along came the internet, blogs, social media and the cost of an ordinary person like me getting their voice heard, became relatively trivial. For a number of years, free speech flourished, such that we started to talk about the EU and we got a vote to leave. We started to talk about immigration, so that political parties had to pretend to take it seriously.

Then, about 5 years ago (2015), Google decided to start downrating sites (like this) which carried scientific evidence & valid interpretations which it did not want the public to hear. Clearly that had nothing to do with the science, because science is decided by the facts. Instead, it was a blatant repression of facts that it didn’t want heard, and purely for political, not scientific reasons. The result was that whereas one month I could easily find an article on this website, the next month it became impossible to find the same article on this website, despite knowing exactly what to search for. More importantly, it meant that no one could find any article on this website, or would any article be randomly suggested to someone, unless all other websites had been searched and nothing else could be offered, and even then many would not appear. Then the same started happening on facebook and twitter.

This year, we saw the most blatantly corrupt election in US history. That corruption involved the removal of Trump supporting accounts from Twitter and facebook, the downrating to 1/10 or less of pro-Trump posts and the downrating of Google of pro-Trump newservices and websites so that on any subject the pro-Biden lies would appear first. And they were lies, because hiding the scandal of Bidens corruption meant the US electorate were lied to about the character of Biden. Not only that, but we now know that there has been vote rigging on an industrial scale with 10s or even 100s of thousands of fraudulent Biden votes being added in some areas. And, of course, the blatantly dishonest media, google, facebook, twitter, etc., are now trying to repress that news as well.

Welcome to the Big Brother World

The simple truth, is that whereas the Sun used to be extremely dishonest in its political campaigning, it could only ever do that it a very “blunderbuss” approach and only then to a fraction of the country because there were many other papers.

But, today, Google controls the overwhelming majority of searches that people make, and therefore what sites they find. Google controls the overwhelming majority of online video content through YouTube. And Google controls an enormous number of smart phones and through map apps and other things, it knows more about individuals than they know about themselves.

So, Unlike the Sun, which could produce one article for its limited readership, today Google and effectively tailor make your information stream to tailor its content to change your mind about the world you think is around you.

Likewise, Twitter and Face book are doing the same. In particular, there is very little doubt that they are targetting journalists and politicians, because these accounts are extremely lucrative for lobby organisations. So they will pay extremely well, to ensure that politicians and journalists have the posts that they want them to see, prominently displayed when these people go to their accounts. Likewise, Big Tech by knowing where these people go, also know who they regularly meet, and so it can also ensure, that not only do the journalists and politicians see the world in the way they want them to see it, but also their close friends, families and colleagues.

Now, imagine the technique they are using on these high-profile individual starts being used for every person connected to the internet. That we all get a tailor made view of the world, apparently being offered random websites – that just happen to fit in with what Google knows is most likely to convince us to buy a particular brand, or particular political party. Tailor made advertising designed to play on our fears and desires to turn us to vote for one politician or party over another.

Now, imagine what such a company will do, if ever a political party puts in its manifesto a commitment to reign in big tech companies. They will not just fund journalists to write incessant hate speech to denigrate the party and members in the eyes of the electorate (as they did to Trump), but they will also ensure that at every opportunity, we find that such hate-filled Big-Tech collaborator promoting articles and websites are consistently the ones we “find” and that those presenting the truth are buried so that they become almost impossible to find by chance.

The vicious cycle

But, if you are reading this, you are viewing this argument from the perspective of someone with an open mind. But now imagine, that for many years all you have had is this never ending brainwashing from Big Tech. But not only you, your family, your friends, your work colleagues, have all been subject to the same Goebbels style “Big Lie” repeated so often and so blatantly that they become accepted as the consensus “truth”. But, that also occurs to Google employees themselves. And now that there is a new “truth”, they are prepared to push the envelope even further. That in turn creates a new distorted version of the truth, which eventually even Google themselves believe. Now, they push the envelope even further.

Can’t happen? Well look at covid and how a bug that is as deadly as many flus, came to be treated in a totally insane way which has never ever been proposed for similarly deadly flus. It can, it does and it has happened. As US election shows, a blatantly corrupt politician with no redeeming attributes and who clearly is in collusion with Big tech has a very good chance of flooding the election with fraudulent votes until he wins. And once he wins, there is NO CHANCE AT ALL that he will take action against Big Tech, who will then use the same evil tactics as they used in the US election to rig EVERY SINGLE MAJOR POLITICAL CONTEST WORLDWIDE.

We are already in the Big Brother Google world.

It cannot be stopped.

The vast majority of people and especially politicians and journalists are now just puppets dancing to Big Techs tune.

Democracy is now an illusion where people imagine they freely chose to vote for the party Google and other Big Tech chose for them.

Nov 6, 2020 at 5:05 AM | Unregistered CommenterIantanyrallt

If Biden wins (as I hope), I have 2 questions:

1. Does it mean that there was no Russian interference this time?

2. Will it now be OK for us to buy US chlorinated chicken?

Nov 6, 2020 at 8:57 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

It is more 'when' than 'if'. Biden just overtook Trump in Georgia, without that state Trump has no route back to the White House, hence the latest torrent of lies.

My personal prediction is that Biden will take or hold all the outstanding swing states bar North Carolina, giving him circa 290 EC votes rendering the inevitable legal challenges and claims of fraud moot.

Russian interference is on wikipedia so it must be real.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/01/uk-will-not-import-chlorinated-chicken-from-us-ministers-brexit

Nov 6, 2020 at 10:13 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Not only that, but we now know that there has been vote rigging on an industrial scale with 10s or even 100s of thousands of fraudulent Biden votes being added in some areas. And, of course, the blatantly dishonest media, google, facebook, twitter, etc., are now trying to repress that news as well.

A post complaining about media lies spreads a lie. Neat.

Nov 6, 2020 at 10:21 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

With regard to 'Big Tech', in fact Twitter treats Trump as a designated newsworthy individual, an elected official with more than 250K followers. This status prevents him from having his account suspended or banned for rule infractions which would lead to severe penalties for standard users.

Twitter have confirmed he will lose that status along with the presidency. As the Guardian says:

That will present Trump with a choice, if he is indeed removed from office in late January: either tone down the rhetoric, just as the humiliation bites hardest, or face the prospect of his hugely influential following being taken away from him

Nov 6, 2020 at 11:05 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

You can watch those boxes containing hundreds of thousands of fake Biden votes arriving in real time.

;-)

Nov 6, 2020 at 11:33 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke