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Very easy to find examples of election fraud.

https://news.gab.com/2020/11/05/the-big-list-of-voter-fraud-news-and-what-can-be-done-to-stopthesteal/

Some parts of the UK are just as bad. Tower Hamlets? Look at the behaviour of the Electoral Commission since 2016.

I'm on Twitter. Many blatant examples of censorship. Or just compare the results of a Google search with those using e.g. Duckduckgo.

Phil Clarke's brain is as clean as a whistle.

Nov 6, 2020 at 12:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

Some links in this post -

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/the_vast_scope_of_election_fraud_in_america.html

Anyone seen examples of fraudulent behaviour by Republicans in this election?

Nov 6, 2020 at 12:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

Just taking one example of that 'evidence'. A video of Biden boasting about creating a 'the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics'

This clip was previously shared by Trump's press secretary and others. It is, of course completely bogus and long-since debunked. Biden was talking about fraud prevention.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-fact-check-biden-voter-protection-not/fact-check-clip-of-biden-taken-out-of-context-to-portray-him-as-plotting-a-voter-fraud-scheme-idUSKBN27E2VH

You call that 'evidence'?

We also have

- Breitbart reporting on 'Sharpiegate' Bogus

- An allegation at Zero Hedge from Project Veritas's favourite fake video specialist James O'Keefe, based on an anonymous 'whistleblower'. Not credible.

- A grand total of 4 ballots in Michegan with incorrect dates of birth - insignificant, even if true.

- According to Forbes some absentee ballots were not delivered, so what? Things get lost in the post. It happens. Remember Trump refused a USPS request for extra funding for mail-in voting. The problem was spotted and new ballots delivered. No fraud. This story gets used twice.

- Some ballots got delayed in transit. This is incompetence, it is not fraud.

- The AG in Pennsylvania called the result early. This is not fraud.

- A postal worker was charged with stealing one ballot. This happened in October so presumably a replacement was issued.

- Two binbags of mail included some ballots were found in Sammamish. Again this was mid-Ooctober and the ballots were restored to the voters. No fraud occurred.

- There was an error that caused wrong ballots to be sent out to about 2% of voters in Columbus. The error was corrected, no fraud occurred.

- And so on. If this is the Big List', I would hate to see the Small, Bogus or Insignificant List. LOL.

Nov 6, 2020 at 1:33 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

In Allegheny County, with 35,413 ballots still outstanding, the election staff took the day off from counting on Thursday so that they could do “administrative work.”

The Secretary of State announced on Wednesday that Nevada would stop releasing election information until Thursday.

Democrat officials are giving the Biden camp private information about the margin of victory they anticipate for him.

To the nutters at American Thinker, these are proof of the 'vast scope of election fraud in America'. Rather than just bog standard procedure.

Nov 6, 2020 at 1:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Anyone seen examples of fraudulent behaviour by Republicans in this election?

Genuine examples of fraud by either side are incredibly rare. Or 'infinitesimally small' to quote the Brennan Center.

Besides, Republicans favour good old fashioned voter suppression.

Nov 6, 2020 at 2:02 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

T'aint true, CNN and NYU academics said so!

I'm so relieved.

Nov 6, 2020 at 4:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

People alleging significant fraud have a few questions to answer

1. Where's the evidence? In an election that has processed 143 million votes there are bound to be some glitches, cockups, communication breakdowns and so on. If you need to brand these as fraud to make your case, you have no case. Biden has attracted 4 million more votes than his opponent. A handful of illegal votes getting through is utterly irrelevant. He will likely end up with 290-310 electoral college votes, no amount of recounts, vexatious lawsuits or baseless fraud allegations is going to make a dent in that margin.

2. Why is it just the presidential race that was rigged? If you ignore Trump/Biden, the Republicans had a great night, far better than the opinion polls would have indicated, picking up seats in the House and in all probability retaining the Senate. How come the Democrats can rustle up hundreds of thousands of fake votes for Biden for not for their other candidates?

3. At least 2 of the swing states have Republican Governors, Georgia has a Republican Secretary of State, Biden's performance there is in line with the other states. If he is winning by fraud, why the F are Red states committing fraud on behalf of a Democrat?

Right now Trumps friends, family and advisors are drawing straws to determine who gets the awful job of telling him he has lost. Until then I predict Trumps' ugliness, wildly false claims, all-caps tweets and toxic lies are only going to get worse. He is even mad at Fox News.

You could almost call it deranged.

Nov 6, 2020 at 5:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Trump's Twitter feed is the maddest thing on the internet right now. But this is a close second.

Any news on Hunter's Kiddie Porn?

Nov 6, 2020 at 11:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

It may be just me, but I've never seen Melania look so happy.

Nov 7, 2020 at 12:50 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Will word eating now become de rigueur at this venue? Between gnashing dentures?

Nov 7, 2020 at 7:47 AM | Unregistered CommenterAK

What I tell you three times is true.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1324927752450011137

Nov 7, 2020 at 9:22 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Nov 6, 2020 at 5:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke


Plenty of evidence for those who care to see

The lack of enthusiasm at the Biden Rallies even with Obama and Stevie Wonder in tow to try and raise the numbers

Biden in Detroit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWqlWk_1vWY

This guy who’s been in congress for 47 years promising “to get things done”

Obama had to call him three times in Michigan - he’d gone awol (and note the lack of enthusiasm)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8905253/Election-2020-Joe-Biden-suffers-senior-moments-Michigan-rally.html

Compared to Trump rallies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWTePq9r8o4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPr28nAuaaQ


And the many many who have left the Democrats, simply can’t stand what the party has become - just need to follow the Walkaway Campaign

https://www.youtube.com/c/WalkAwayCampaign/featured

So not surprising that Trump surpassed his 2016 results by more than 12%, including a huge increase in black and Hispanic votes, after a great first term reviving the economy and his enthusiastic rallies.

But somehow we're supposed to believe that despite the lack of enthusiasm for Basement Biden he achieved a huge increase of more than 7% over Obama's massive vote in 2008 and over 13% more than Clinton's 'popular' vote in 2016.

Somehow a little unlikely lol!!

But we can see how they cheated using the voting system

you can actually see it on CNN as the votes were coming in - votes transferred from a Republican to the Democrat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=1994

described by the Media as a ‘glitch’ - it’s fraud - deliberately programmed into the software .

Watch the whole video - see the many ways the voting system can be manipulated.


Not to mention many other 'irregularities' in the election.

https://news.gab.com/2020/11/05/the-big-list-of-voter-fraud-news-and-what-can-be-done-to-stopthesteal/

For once, in Trump, there is a representative strong enough to stand up for 'we the people'.

Nov 7, 2020 at 1:53 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Nov 7, 2020 at 9:22 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

So.... observers are supposed to be satisfied with viewing from 25 feet away (when the mandate was 6 feet)!!!

LOL!!! - not sure how many ballots they could see were handled correctly from that distance!!

And you're trying to say THIS didn't happen

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/04/watch-detroit-absentee-ballot-counting-chaos-as-workers-block-windows-bar-observers/

Nov 7, 2020 at 2:01 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

A Trump campaign lawyer admitted before a federal judge on Thursday that observers for the campaign were allowed to watch ballot canvassing in Philadelphia, after they claimed in court and the President's supporters alleged they were being deprived unfairly. 

But the federal judge was having none of it, instead asking Philadelphia city officials to confirm Democrats and Republicans were being treated fairly to watch the ballot-counting and that they were allowed to watch the ballot counting in the city from six feet away.

When the judge pressed the Trump campaign lawyer if there were observers in the room from the campaign, the lawyer, Jerome Marcus, said, "There's a non-zero number of people in the room."

The judge, Paul Diamond of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, a George W. Bush appointee, also pointed out he believed the President's case appeared to have no reason to be in federal court, and even cracked a joke that the lawyer "shouldn't quit his day job" when the campaign handed the judge a hand-drawn map of the ballot counting room.

Source

Even Fox News debunked that one.

If a group of chanting protestors, some armed, is congregating outside the office, measures to prevent staff being identified seem a wise precaution. Already one poll worker has had to go into hiding after a video falsely claimed to show him destroying a ballot went viral.

Got any more? Preferably not just repeats of Trumps' lies.

Nov 7, 2020 at 2:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

So the windows weren't blocked ??? - we shouldn't believe our lying eyes LOL!!!

We SHOULD believe the billionaire brigade 'fact-checking' media outlets!!!

Give me a break - remember the 'mostly peaceful' protests!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nTyCiZFztw

Nov 7, 2020 at 2:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Just because the media calls them 'lies' doesn't mean to say they are - President Trump got this absolutely right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r69rBa6Mpa4

Nov 7, 2020 at 3:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

And after four years of Corporate Media RUSSIA,RUSSIA,RUSSIA lies about 'Trump collusion with Russia' which turned out to be Clinton collusion with Russia to harm Trumps chances in the 2016 election you'll have to do better than cite the media.

Nov 7, 2020 at 3:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Can't have the fake news that's extremely dangerous to our democracy lol!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksb3KD6DfSI

Nov 7, 2020 at 3:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Lying scumbuckets

Nov 7, 2020 at 3:42 PM | Unregistered Commenter!

The windows were blocked, so what? There's nothing in law says counting offices have to allow people on the street to see inside, especially when there's a risk of intimidation from a chanting mob (Hint, there is no such thing as an 'unofficial Republican observer').

Lawrence Garcia, an attorney for the City of Detroit, said that the windows were partially blocked because of concern voter information could be wrongfully revealed to the public. Those concerns were compounded by the fact that protesters standing outside the ballot-counting area were taking photographs and recording video.

"Some -- but not all -- windows were covered, because poll workers seated just inside those windows expressed concerns about people outside the center photographing and filming them and their work," Garcia told CNN Business. "Only the media is allowed to take pictures inside the counting place, and people outside the center were not listening to requests to stop filming poll workers and their paperwork."

Practically nothing Trump has tweeted since he lied about winning the election is true.

In Pennsylvania, partisan Democrats have allowed ballots in the state to be received three days after the election and we think much more than that.

It was the state Supreme Court that made that judgement.

Our campaign has been denied access to observe any counting in Detroit.

That would be illegal if true. It is not.

The election apparatus in Georgia is run by Democrats.

The election in GA is overseen by Republican secretary of state Brad Raffensperger. The Governor is also a Republican

If you count the legal votes, I easily win.

He is heading for a decisive loss, he provides zero evidence of illegal voting.

Tens of thousands of votes were illegally received after 8 P.M. on Tuesday, Election Day, totally and easily changing the results in Pennsylvania and certain other razor thin states. As a separate matter, hundreds of thousands of Votes were illegally not allowed to be OBSERVED…

Wrong in every respect. Pennsylvania State law allows votes that arrive up to three days after Election Day to be counted, as long as they are postmarked on or before ED, these votes number in the thousands not the tens of thousands, and they have not even started counting them yet. When Trump's lawyer challenged the observation arrangements on two occasions the judge first ruled that the Board of Elections had complied with all its obligations and then that the legal challenge was frivolous.

It's all lies.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/05/media/detroit-windows-covered-ballots-vote-center/index.html
https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1325067867612647424

Nov 7, 2020 at 4:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Lying scumbags

Nov 7, 2020 at 4:42 PM | Unregistered Commenter!

"The windows were blocked, so what?"

So much for transparency - the observers had every right to view the count - not that they could observe much from the ludicrous distance they were placed - and the chants happened AFTER the windows were blocked

The President is quite right - the numbers don't lie - that sleepy Joe Biden should absolutely shatter Obama's 2008 election success is ludicrous.

"The first Democrats to win Arizona in 24 years"

Biden & Harris campaigning in Arizona

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lakk5XKOih8

Trump campaigning in Arizona

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zk23rCWFSw

"The first Democrats to win Georgia in 28 years"

Biden campaigning in Georgia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT2PYcCB7f8

Trump campaigning in Georgia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQKzfJU23zo

Where's the enthusiasm for Biden that should engender a high turnout? Lots of enthusiasm for Trump. Yet Biden supposedly won???

And what has Biden promised the electorate - green new deal, loss of energy jobs, compulsory masks, lockdowns, removing Trumps tax breaks, not to mention proven corruption via the 'laptop from hell'

The only way Biden has the numbers is via "the most inclusive VOTER FRAUD organization in the history of American politics"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0

Nov 7, 2020 at 5:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

So much for transparency - the observers had every right to view the count 

They were not observers, they were just a group of protestors outside of the office on the street. Inside the building there were Republican observers, Democratic observers, independent observers, media and cameras. They were allowed to within 6 feet of the counters, if they saw anything suspicious they just had to raise a hand and submit their concerns, with evidence. Nobody did.

Biden is 34,000 votes ahead in Pennsylvania and climbing, are you really saying all those votes were illegally snuck in, and the fraud would have been prevented if only people on the street could see in?

The only way Biden has the numbers is via "the most inclusive VOTER FRAUD organization in the history of American politics"

You find that clip convincing? Really? In context, he is encouraging people to vote and not be put off by the Trump Administration's voter suppression measures. Here's an extract from the transcript.

But one of the things that I think is most important is those who haven't voted yet, first of all go to IWillVote.com to make a plan exactly how you're going to vote, where you're going to vote, when you're going to vote. Because it can get complicated, because the Republicans are doing everything they can to make it harder for people to vote — particularly people of color — to vote. So go to IWillVote.com.

Secondly, we're in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration — President Obama's administration before this — we have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. What the president is trying to do is discourage people from voting by implying that their vote won't be counted, it can't be counted, we're going to challenge it and all these things. If enough people vote, it's going to overwhelm the system. You see what's happening now, you guys know it as well as I do, you see the long, long lines and early voting.

You see the millions of people who have already cast a ballot. And so, don't be intimidated. If in fact you have any, any problem go to — and I don't have the number but it's 833-DEM-VOTE... Call that number. We have over a thousand lawyers, over a thousand of them, they'll answer the phone, if you think there's any challenge to your voting. Go to 833-DEM-VOTE, dial those letters on your phone. That will get you the assistance that we have already put in place.

Debunked here, here, here and here.

As for enthusiasm, I'm looking at CNN right now and a large chunk of the populace are dancing in the streets.

Nov 7, 2020 at 6:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

The recounts + audits should all go forward just as they did for Hillary Clinton even after she conceded.

CNN et al didn't complain then.... what will they do next eh?

- elsewhere - "people" voted for Biden but not their local Democrat representatives who lost ... apparently - Never Trumpers? - seems unlikely.

Nov 7, 2020 at 7:48 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Nov 7, 2020 at 6:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

For goodness sake Phil - SNOPES!!!! - farcical and the usual Corporate media hacks Reuters, WP and CNN lol!!! All bought and paid for Corporate shills.

Where is the ENTHUSIASM for Biden??? Or Harris for that matter - wasn't she the first to drop out of the Presidential race - she was so unpopular!! Show me the cheering crowds at their rallies.

No, this is a fight for the future - Billionaires, Big-Tech and the Deep State globalists against the People. We can only hope President Trump will prevail.

Nov 7, 2020 at 8:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion