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See it with your own eyes - then watch the whole video through to see just how easy it is to manipulate the election
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=1994

Not sure how a clip of the election for the Governor of Kentucky in November 2019 is that relevant to the presidential election this year?

Seems to me, other than claims from a dodgy Youtube interview with a Republican politician, the total evidence of electoral fraud presented amounts to:

I don't believe it

Nov 8, 2020 at 3:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

"Not sure how a clip of the election for the Governor of Kentucky in November 2019 is that relevant to the presidential election this year?"

Of course it's relevent - it shows how easily it's done and right up front with everyone watching. Beshear, a Democrat, became the governor- he got away with it despite the Kentucky Secretary of State, Treasurer, Attorney General all Republicans with massive margins - the only anomaly was the Governor, a Democrat with a 5k margin.

The SAME software is being used. And the same 'glitches' have been happening.

I notice you ignored the example I gave from the SAME VIDEO for the PRESIDENTIAL election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=2817

“Essentially 5 key battleground states with Democrat governors all suddenly quit counting at the same time in the dead of night and then they suddenly resumed three hours later. Trump was comfortably ahead in all five of them when they stopped and when counting resumed three hours later enough new ballots had been found in all five states, five out of five, that suddenly Biden had caught up. Even more incredibly virtually every single ballot is for Biden, and unsurprisingly in Michigan it’s now known that the votes were a bogus file upload. In one state, Wisconsin now has more votes than their entire registered voters.”

Of course they'll adjust the totals when the adjustments are noticed and claim it's a 'glitch' - it's not a 'glitch' it's blatant fraud built into the election software or with local operators adjusting the totals - happening right before our very eyes.

BLATANT FRAUD HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE OUR VERY EYES

Nov 8, 2020 at 5:36 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Wisconsin now has more votes than their entire registered voters.

As I showed [9:42], that's a lie. If they will lie about that why give them credence on their other claims?

Nov 8, 2020 at 5:54 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

It took 5 minutes on Google to discover that the claim about counting being stopped is also bogus. One county stopped due to a burst water main, but other than that counting carried on everywhere.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/battleground-states-did-not-stop-counting-votes-el/
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/04/fact-check-no-vote-counting-democrat-led-states-hasnt-stopped/6163978002/

And when they claim 138,339 votes magically appeared for Biden - that was a typo.

Onto the ignore list you go.

https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/did-michigan-magically-find-138339

Nov 8, 2020 at 6:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

You may not believe it Phil but it doesn't make it any less true and sure enough Sidney Powell, one of Trump's legal team is on Fox News this morning talking about it.

Gets more and more murky - it seems that Nancy Pelosi's long term Chief of Staff is a key executive at Dominion SW (the software company responsible for the 'glitches') and that Senator Feinstein's husband, Richard Blum is a big shareholder in the company.

THIS SCANDAL IS MASSIVE!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGuoJvd5efw

And no wonder Joe Biden said he had "the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organisation in the history of American politics"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRZEs9BRGK4

or that he didn't need voters to get him elected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mv6XOUBdM

It seems he does speak the truth on occasion.

Nov 8, 2020 at 6:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Phil, Phil, Phil - just when are you going to stop believing the Corporate Media's propaganda.

Burst water main!!!!

Typo!!!!

LOL!!!

Just because they're called "fact-checkers" doesn't make them so.

About time you read Orwell's 1984.

Nov 8, 2020 at 6:53 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Those software glitches keep on coming.

Nov 8, 2020 at 11:53 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Don't worry Phil - it's all being monitored - they're following all the adjustments being made in realtime - the Dems have been caught in a sting - no doubt they'll pay dearly for this. 😉

Nov 9, 2020 at 12:20 AM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Is there anyone left here who is not delusional?

Nov 9, 2020 at 12:59 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Oh, and you missed the full quote, phil, tut tut!!

According to the 2014 book “The First Family Detail” by best-selling author Robert Kessler, Biden “upsets female Secret Service agents by swimming naked wherever he goes.”
“Agents say that, whether at the vice president’s residence or at his home in Delaware, Biden has a habit of swimming in his pool nude,” Kessler wrote. “Female Secret Service agents find that offensive.”

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/joe-biden-naked-secret-service/

Nov 9, 2020 at 1:23 AM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

One is a quote from the book, it appears at the end of chapter one. The other is a paraphrase added by who knows?

You should read The Secret Life of Walter Mitty.

Nov 9, 2020 at 9:30 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Oh the utter, utter joy of discovering that that “mafioso” Rudy Giuliani had to hold his news conference in the car park of the Four Seasons Landscaping Company (next to an adult bookshop and crematorium) rather than at the Four Seasons Hotel. Somebody’s head rolled.

Nov 9, 2020 at 10:47 AM | Unregistered CommenterAK

The garden centre is now selling badges reading 'Make America Rake Again', and a cartoonist has raised $28K selling commemorative T-shirts, which he is going to donate to the Democrats….

Nov 9, 2020 at 11:03 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Big Tech really don't want people viewing this video - they've now slapped an age restriction on it lol!!!

"Age restricted video (based on Community Guidelines)" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still you can get the gist from the Comments section - Electoral Fraud BIGTIME

"Interview with Source on Electronic Vote Fraud"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtu.be&t=2817

“Essentially 5 key battleground states with Democrat governors all suddenly quit counting at the same time in the dead of night and then they suddenly resumed three hours later. Trump was comfortably ahead in all five of them when they stopped and when counting resumed three hours later enough new ballots had been found in all five states, five out of five, that suddenly Biden had caught up. Even more incredibly virtually every single ballot is for Biden, and unsurprisingly in Michigan it’s now known that the votes were a bogus file upload. In one state, Wisconsin now has more votes than their entire registered voters.”

Nov 9, 2020 at 3:49 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

In Marionland, if you keep repeating the same old refuted lies, they amazingly become true (NOT).

Nov 9, 2020 at 4:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK

AK and PC
Up in a tree
KISSING

Get a room!

Nov 9, 2020 at 6:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

Just to inject some hard facts, here are the current sizes of the majorities in the swing states where Biden is ahead, some permutation of which Trump would need to flip back to his column:-

Georgia(16 EC Votes) 10,610
Arizona(11) 16,985
Wisconsin(10) 20,540
Nevada(6) 36,186
Pennsylvania(20) 45,646
Michegan(16) 146,123

If I've done the arithmetic correctly, the cheapest path to the magic 270 requires over 129,000 Biden votes to be annulled. This is an unclimbable mountain. It would mean electoral fraud had occurred at a massive and unprecedented extent, so far Team Trump has not provided an iota of evidence that comes close to this scale. Many of the legal actions brought by Team Trump have already been dismissed or tossed out and the ones that are proceeding are unlikely to move the needle.

PS At one point Biden's vote in Michegan jumped by an implausible 138,339 on the Decision Desk HQ website as highlighted in Marion's favourite Youtube. This was because of a typo in a data feed from Shiawassee county which added an extra zero to Biden's total of 15,371. This was quickly spotted and fixed.

Nov 9, 2020 at 7:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

"Just to inject some hard facts....would need to flip back to his column".

Did you find a room?

Nov 9, 2020 at 7:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

Well, for what it's worth, I'm with Phil C and AK on this one. I have seen no credible evidence yet in support of Trump's claims, though I will wait for his law-suit(s) to see if there is more to it than bluff and bluster.

On the other hand, I was astonished to see it reported (briefly on the BBC TV news yesterday evening - I haven't seen it repeated anywhere else) that more than 100 million of the US Presidential election votes cast were postal ballots. That would represent 2/3 of all votes cast, and must increase the possibility of both fraud and error. On the other hand again, why would all the errors and fraud be in one way only?

Nov 9, 2020 at 8:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

MH, PC and AK in a threesome?

Uggh!

MH, you in the running for the most naif question ever?

Nov 9, 2020 at 8:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

Charly, your comments do you no favours.

It's really very simple - let's see some real, hard evidence, not internet chatter from people who refuse to accept the result.

Nov 10, 2020 at 8:31 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

Begins in Pennsylvania -

https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/2020-11-09-complaint-as-filed.pdf

Nov 10, 2020 at 9:42 AM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

Did you read that document? IANAL but seems to me most of the issues have already been ruled on by the Courts, and the others could be easily remedied without any votes being annulled. Just a delaying action.

Nov 10, 2020 at 10:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

The new Pennsylvania lawsuit rehashes many of the already disproven claims that have failed to succeed so far in federal and state courts. The case hangs on the claim – posited without any new hard evidence – that voters were treated differently depending on whether they voted by mail or in person.

The legal action also claims that almost 700,000 mail-in and absentee ballots were counted in Philadelphia and Allegheny county, both Democratic strongholds, without observers present. That complaint has already been repeatedly debunked.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/09/william-barr-vote-irregularities-donald-trump-election

In the extraordinary event that the lawsuit prevents Pennsylvania from certifying the result - and think about that for a moment - there's still no route to victory for Trump that does not involve disenfranchising tens of thousands of citizens who voted in good faith for Biden.

It's over. Trump lost.

Nov 10, 2020 at 10:22 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke