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@clipe
One obvious and simple mistake Ross makes is assigning Christopher Steele's previous employ to MI5 and not MI6.
The complexity aspect of the interweaving antics of the cast of characters is one thing that plays in the miscreants favour - simple mistakes like that at this stage of the game isn't easily forgivable and in my view taints the whole piece....
When something this complex hits the public sphere any mis-statement is going to be picked on to defend the bad guys.
The Monday evening "memo meeting" of the Intelligence Committee is declassified and on Scribd.
Some observations:
Over 200 Congresspersons have viewed the first memo under NDA - 65 of whom have formally requested that the memo be circulated publicly.
A statement / claim by Illinois Rep Mike Quigley(D) that Russians successfully penetrated 36 state election organisations
DJT purportedly has not read the memo - an indication that he's content to let it ride.
FBI + DOJ are trying to poke procedural sticks in the spokes.
Rep Adam Schiff is notable for trying every trick he can think of and posturing like a champ ....
The Democrat "counter memo" was presented 20 minutes before the meeting with a demand that it be published as-is.
Saner voices are saying review and release both memos simultaneously
Trump has an initial veto - but not a final one - if he chooses to use it.
tomo
Did Mueller just blink?
He's put 3 months into the timeline for Mike Flynn's sentencing ... just maybe he's getting feedback that any fule can see he stitched up a man legitimately doing his job?
More detail on the unraveling HERE
A complete shit show ....
tomo
Comey starts cranking the victimhood handle - I wonder if we'll get "racism!" if Obamah gets sucked in?
It's McCarthyism apparently
Thing is ... it all still has the possibility to fizzle out due to security concerns - likely a few booby traps placed for the unwary.
tomo
A complete shit show ....
Feb 1, 2018 at 5:53 PM | Registered Commenter tomo
Soon Trump can start on Climate Science
golf charlie
The Democrats paid $12 million dollars for the "Trump Moscow dossier"
An interesting video at Rebel Media - worth a watch
tomo
Ah....
people are going back into video archives and plucking ripe stuff like this little bit of arrogant boasting which in light of what's now going on looks like foolishness of quite epic proportions....
Auntie is staying resolutely schtum ...
tomo
Sorry, I only ever visit Rebel Media to read Katie Hopkins ;-)
Phil Clarke
If (OK - big if) you can get past his present manic presentation style and crank food adverts - the detail that Dan Bongino elaborates in his latest podcast are worth paying attention to.
PC
I'd hope you might visit Rebel Media - if only to see what the opposition is up to ... you didn't though did you?
tomo
Michelle Obamah is starting out on the talk show circuit .....
tomo
Feb 2, 2018 at 12:26 PM Phil Clarke
The US Democrats are demonstrating the same level of honesty as Climate Scientists. Where would Climate Science be without US Democrats?
Clinton dishonesty is well established. Obama's is disappointing, and it seems Michelle is being deployed to try and maintain some credibility.
Once US, UK and EU Politics are rid of failed Green dogma, normal political corruption from Left, Right and Centre can return. Climate Scientists are easily confused by failed dogma, because Climate Science represents failed dogma.
golf charlie
I see the BBC have wheeled out the utterly (clinically) barking Louise Mensch to commentate on the rolling shit show stateside.
Hmmm ... not sure that's going to fly ...
OK... back to same old ... Trump in cahoots with Putin is attacking the FBI
reading it ... the BBC are yet again running the same old arrogant and bankrupt game of trying to frame the entire affair in their own wholly partisan terms.
tomo
Feb 2, 2018 at 4:46 PM tomo
Louise Mensch can make anything fly. when suitably fuelled.
golf charlie
gc
excellent !
tomo
Memo is out. Soon everyone will know whether Steele was M15 or M16.
It's as we thought. The FBI, and DOJ, knowing Steele's bias, and that his was oppo research, used his dossier to spy on the Trump campaign.
Tsunami, incoming; all that flutter from the crooks was wailing about the emptying beach.
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kim
tomo at Feb 1, 2018 at 11:31 PM
It's McCarthyism apparently
Obviouly, Comey hasn't read American Betrayal by Diana West.
American Betrayal is America's lost history, a chronicle that pits Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight David Eisenhower, and other American icons who shielded overlapping Communist conspiracies against the investigators, politicians, defectors, and others (including Senator Joseph McCarthy) who tried to tell the American people the truth.
Here is a (25m) video about it:
Audio Interview: Diana West on 'American Betrayal'
Déjà vu!
Robert Christopher
Robert Christopher
there's quite a bit of incontrovertible living memory history out there that prominent participants obviously have not read / aren't aware of. Some (much!) of it directly relates to their jobs - and you have to ask yourself what qualifies them for employment beyond petty personal power intoxication and flat out stoopidity.
tomo
But enough about Donald.
Phil Clarke
From Wikipedia
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? is a Latin phrase found in the work of the Roman poet Juvenal from his Satires (Satire VI, lines 347–348). It is literally translated as "Who will guard the guards themselves?", though it is also known by variant translations.
The original context deals with the problem of ensuring marital fidelity, though it is now commonly used more generally to refer to the problem of controlling the actions of persons in positions of power, an issue discussed by Plato in the Republic. It is not clear whether the phrase was written by Juvenal, or whether the passage in which it appears was interpolated into his works."
Climate Science assumes CO2 is Guilty, then pays vast sums of other people's money, to like minded individuals, to find or fabricate evidence. It is all Peer Reviewed by the same individuals, to further their own income, status and careers.
Is there a link between Democrat Propaganda Funding, and Climate Science Propaganda Funding?
golf charlie
But enough about Donald.
Feb 2, 2018 at 10:31 PM | Phil Clarke
Excellent! Good that you accept that you have been believing and trusting liars. Hopefully their convictions will follow
golf charlie
PC
ho-ho
DJT hasn't really had to lift a finger .... HRC + DNC + Obamah + their tame bureaucrat chums did it to themselves. You'll be on here next telling us all that Evelyn Farcas isn't a conceited dimwit.
The point fwiw - which I expect you to know f-all about is that it isn't entirely without precedent.
Apparently the Senate Intelligence Committee has a memo that hasn't had the attention yet that this one has had....
I suspect this shitshow hasn't even reached the end of the overture - Nancy Pelosi is going to have to explore stronger denture fixatives.
So Phil.... hypothetically:
Imagine if Republicans had conspired with the Bush administration & FBI & DoJ to sabotage Obama by spying on & smearing him as a Kenyan born Russian agent based on a fake dossier written by a foreign spy who hated Obama & wanted to stop him becoming president.
tomo
an interesting snippet
The FBI refused to declassify a criminal referral by two Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee asking for investigation of Christopher Steele for lying to federal authorities. Not it would seem for natsec purposes, but for nakedly political purposes: to protect the FBI from public criticism.
It would seem that Steele was up to all sorts behind the scenes - leaking stories to assorted media (also possibly paying reporters) - perhaps he fancies himself as a modern day William Stephenson
tomo
Blimey
now there's apparently a State Department memo.
tomo
Flynn plea deal delayed as there's evidence FBI agents fabricated the 302s (notes summarizing witness interviews) in Flynn investigation. Inspector General's Report will reveal fabrication of other 302s, at the direction of Comey and others within DOJ.
double blimey
tomo
Connections — The Trigger Effect by James Burke
Funny thing is James Burke was "triggered" long ago.
clipe
The Nunes Memo and the Horowitz Report: Popcorn Edition1
Ross McKitrick
January 29, 2018