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Hi Phil ,I know a bit about lining things up in advance. Seems you do too.

Someone wants to stay off-topic.

So the judge in this case basically said that Ball's writings were not credible enough to inflict reputational damage on a professional scientist:

"Simply put, a reasonably thoughtful and informed person who reads the Article is unlikely to place any stock in Dr. Ball’s views, including his views of Dr. Weaver as a supporter of conventional climate science.”

Readers with long memories might remember Ball's defamation suit against the Calgary Herald back in 2007, Dr Tim folded when the Herald refused to roll over instead submitted a robust defence, including

"49. The Defendants deny that the Plaintiff suffered any loss to his reputation or income earning capacity, and put the Plaintiff to strict proof thereof.

50. The Defendants (the Calgary Herald) state that the Plaintiff (Ball) never held a reputation in the scientific community as a noted climatologist and authority on global warming. The particulars of the Plaintiff's reputation are as follows:...

(d) The Plaintiff is viewed as a paid promoter of the agenda of the oil and gas industry rather than as a practicing scientist."

Ouch!

Ah, yes, Trump.

During his presidential campaign, Donald Trump told the “forgotten men and women of our country” that he would champion them. As evidence that he was a different kind of Republican, he promised not to cut Medicare, Medicaid and other programs that benefit poor and middle-class families.

On Monday, President Trump proposed a budget that would slash spendingon Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, transportation and other essential government services, all while increasing the federal deficit.

Mr. Trump’s 2019 budget, combined with the tax cuts Republicans passed last year, would amount to one of the greatest transfers of wealth from the poor to the rich in generations. It would also charge trillions of dollars in new debt to the account of future Americans. It’s a plan that could please only far-right ideologues who want to dissolve nearly every part of the federal government, save the military.

The proposal would raise military spending by 14.1 percent while cutting funding for the State Department — the agency that has a mandate to resolve problems without going to war — by 26.9 percent. It would cut the Department of Health and Human Services by 20.3 percent and the Department of Education by 10.5 percent. It calls for (yet again) the repeal of the Affordable Care Act and proposes cutting food stamps by $213 billion, or around 30 percent, over 10 years. Medicare and Medicaid, which benefit one-third of Americans, are targeted for cuts of hundreds of billions of dollars.

Dishonest, and nasty with it.

Trump's nasty budget

Stormy times ahead
Miracles do happen - top Trump lawyer paid porn star (who previously claimed sexual relationships with Don) money out of his own pocket. She now says she is free to speak.
Popcorn anybody?

What a sand up guy that Michael Cohen must be! Prior to the gagging order, there was an interview in In Touch Weekly (Not going to link as I'm on a 'work' PC but interested folk can Google it.

The President denies the affair, but we seem to have reached the point that one more lie on top of the thousands already uttered really makes not a heap of difference.

Sad!

stand up, dammit.

Feb 15, 2018 at 9:20 AM | Phil Clarke

As a liar yourself, how do you make judgements about Trump, when you keep quoting lies by other liars?

Monica Lewinsky may not have been an industry professional, but despite having evidence, she was accused of lying, by a couple, who remain liars, and a couple. Allegedly.

Americans elected the more honest candidate. Democrats are struggling to find honest candidates to run against him. But you still support a proven liar, who was happy to destroy the life and career of an honest "girl" who went to work, for her boss in the White House. I wonder if he ate popcorn as he admired her skill? He and his regular (?) partner certainly lied about it, with the help of Democrat sympathisers.

Did you learn about double standards and hypocrisy from Climate Scientists?

Feb 15, 2018 at 7:56 AM | Phil Clarke

Would now be a good time for Mann to drop his Legal Actions, and reimburse the people he has been harassing using other people's money?

Democrats have been harassing Trump with some massive lies, but as each one has disintegrated through faulty and fraudulent workmanship, Trump has not retaliated. He is becoming more Saintly than the blessed St Hillary herself.

Feb 15, 2018 at 4:22 PM | tomo

The link above provides FACTS. It concludes with these OPINIONS/INTERPRETATIONS, which with their factual and evidence based origins, seem fairly conclusive:

"All of the news and information coming forward, including the withdrawal of the request for the Democrat memo, aligns with a very specific fact pattern.  Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, James Baker, Bill Priestap, Bruce Ohr and likely Nellie Ohr, have cut some kind of deal with the IG for process leniency in exchange for cooperation."

"The Five have provided the IG and the DOJ with sworn statements and testimony which is highlighted in investigative communication between the DOJ and Chairman Nunes; and we see snippets surfacing in the Nunes memo."

"That perspective explains everything seen and not seen."

"It is very likely the final investigative summary from the Department of Justice, Office of Inspector General (DOJ-OIG), Michael Horowitz, is going to be rather stunning and encompassing"

If only Climate Science advocates could learn something, about starting with facts and evidence BEFORE reaching a CONCLUSION, Mann would not be sweating as much in this chilly weather.

Feb 15, 2018 at 5:10 PM | tomo

That link is shorter on fact and stronger on opinion, but is definitely a plausible explanation.

If true, Trump has waited patiently. The evidence of the extent and pattern, of the dishonesty/corruption entrenched against him, from within the ranks of top US Government officials, becoming clearer, with every fresh leak and lie published.

I am sure he would be delighted if Yates had her name on a Democrat nomination.

Feb 15, 2018 at 5:30 PM | tomo

The link ends with this conclusion based on some evidence:

"That’s why, after a year of thousands of furious allegations, all of which concerning Trump are unsubstantiated, the press will not report the real scandal, in which it plays a leading role. When the reckoning comes, Russiagate is likely to be seen not as a symptom of the collapse of the American press, but as one of the causes for it."

I think the prediction of a collapse of the American press is an exaggeration, but certain big names are facing a credibility failure. Trump is NOT in a panic or rush, unlike those who have conspired and failed.

The longer this drags out, the more it damages the American press.

tomo
"just for Supertroll - Trump as Jim Hacker?"

No, no, no. Jim Hacker had a certain innocence, whereas Trump, shall we just say hasn't. It was with the greatest of effort that Hacker could be persuaded to lie, whereas Trump.......

It was with the greatest of effort that Hacker could be persuaded to lie, whereas Trump.......

Feb 16, 2018 at 7:18 AM | Supertroll

.... has had more lies told about him, and his staff, by US Government spooks, and UK Secret Squirrels, without retaliating. Yet!

How will the liars and false accusers react when he does? Revenge is a dish best served up cold, but Climate Science has always been half-baked, and is already toast.

Feb 15, 2018 at 12:41 AM | Phil Clarke
When are you going to apologise for all your lies?

(d) The Plaintiff is viewed as a paid promoter of the agenda of the oil and gas industry rather than as a practicing scientist."

Ouch!

Feb 15, 2018 at 7:56 AM | Phil Clarke

Are you a paid promoter of the Green Blob? When will professional Climate Scientists justify the billion$ they have taken without any evidence or justification?

I do not know what the US Legal equivalent of obtaining money by deception is. Obama's FBI used international arrest warrants, based on factual evidence, to bust the crooks of FIFA. Would you be ok withTrump asking the FBI to prove their honesty and integrity, by investigating "alleged fraud" by Climate Scientists in the USA, UK, EU and possibly Australia aswell?

They could start with the original Hockey Team and Real Climate authors, and how Wikipedia was adjusted to fit a conclusion for which there was no real evidence.