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Trump organisation hires ex Mossad folk to investigate Obamah Iran deal people.

Looks like some schadenfreude being cooked up.

Expect cries of "not fair" from the usual suspects.... BBC, CNN etcetera. (CNN's latest N Korea piece)

The antics of John Kerry trying to run interference with the Iranian regime look like they could do with some Logan Act investigation ....

May 7, 2018 at 9:13 AM | Registered Commentertomo

Judge Ellis Wants to See Mueller's Hunting License

May 6, 2018 at 11:31 PM | clipe

Could be interesting, if Mueller has been exceeding his Terms of Reference.

Could be very interesting if Mueller has been avoiding subjects within his Terms of Reference.

May 7, 2018 at 11:49 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

tomo, under Obama, John Kerry really understood how the world of sinister regimes worked:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2016/07/26/john-kerry-north-korea-learn-from-iran-nuclear-deal-else/liEKGDBrwHS9GFIkP1Y2gN/story.html

By Vijay Joshi ASSOCIATED PRESS  JULY 26, 2016

"VIENTIANE, Laos — North Korea’s pursuit of nuclear weapons — when the world is trying to rid itself of them — is ‘‘very provocative and deeply concerning,’’ US Secretary of State John Kerry said Tuesday, warning that there will be consequences if it does not stop.

Kerry, who was in the Laotian capital to attend an Asia-Pacific security conference that includes North Korea, said its actions present a very serious threat not just to this region, but also to international peace and security.

He said North Korea should learn from Iran, also a bitter enemy but with whom the United States and other countries made a deal to end its nuclear program."

That went well.

May 7, 2018 at 12:01 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Heh, t, Andy has had a lot of trouble understanding that all of his friends are shitheads, but I think he's slowly coming around to it.
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May 7, 2018 at 11:18 PM | Unregistered Commenterkim

IG manana, oh yes, we have some banana.
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May 7, 2018 at 11:19 PM | Unregistered Commenterkim

CNN don't have the best reputation for accurate reports about Trump but.......

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/07/politics/donald-trump-russia-investigation-obstruction/index.html

May 8, 2018 at 12:16 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

gc

CNN aren't entirely stupid ... as Mueller has gotten more and more speculative with stretching the rule book and is now resorting to trying to provoke while others try to cook up more intrigue .... their coverage has it seems to me started to falter.

If the words from DJT about it (presently streaming on the linked piece) are anything to go by - his lawyers want to have a totally crushing case in place before they move.

May 8, 2018 at 2:39 AM | Registered Commentertomo

May 8, 2018 at 2:39 AM | tomo

There is also the matter of CNN sources and staff being asked to answer questions, under oath.

Whilst under investigation, all Trump can do is defend himself from attack, and he can't rely on the FBI to be impartial under current management.

WHEN that changes, CNN may also require some new management, if key personnel are compromised.

May 8, 2018 at 9:06 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

May 8, 2018 at 1:14 AM | clipe

That link contains some hard-hitting stuff for a Judge to say in Court to a Prosecution Team. The fact that the Prosecutors are relying on the apparently limitless, and unaccountable powers of investigation bestowed upon Mueller is hammered home. Mueller IS accountable too.

The Judge now expects those acting on behalf of Mueller to be honest and has given them a couple of weeks to resolve his concerns. What happens next, if he decides they are not acting honestly in HIS Court, I don't know! In the UK it would lead to a Court Case collapsing, along with similar cases, that have similar tarnishes and stains.

May 8, 2018 at 11:56 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

CNN dip their toes (again) into victimhood waters...

"Investigating Iran deal officials is something Putin would do"

May 8, 2018 at 2:43 PM | Registered Commentertomo

tomo, CNN are assuming that Trump was the only person with a motive to oppose Democrats washing their hands of Israel and Jewish concerns.

Who has been paying the Democrats and CNN? Who has promoted this story and why?

May 8, 2018 at 6:54 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

gc

The Soros clan have been busy doling out dosh to folk... - and that's just the legally mandated declarations....

Quite what influence the Saudis, Qataris and so on have been up to.... That Iranian cash bounty for supposedly being "good boys" can't be spent in Iran - can it?

I marvel that George Galloway hasn't schemed up something to harvest some of the opportunities afforded by the present wave of influence peddling.

May 8, 2018 at 7:43 PM | Registered Commentertomo

tomo, Team Soros noted!

Meanwhile

Iran's Nuclear programme. USA and Israel used to (?) work together?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

What sources and information is Trump now relying on?

May 8, 2018 at 11:18 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Stuxnet is not new

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/29/us-stuxnet-cyber-attack-north-korea-failure

The US tried to deploy a version of the Stuxnet computer virus to attack North Korea’s nuclear weapons programme five years ago but ultimately failed, according to people familiar with the covert campaign.

The operation began in tandem with the now-famous Stuxnet attack that sabotaged Iran’s nuclear programme in 2009 and 2010 by destroying a thousand or more centrifuges that were enriching uranium. Reuters and others have reported that the Iran attack was a joint effort by US and Israeli forces.

According to one US intelligence source, Stuxnet’s developers produced a related virus that would be activated when it encountered Korean-language settings on an infected machine.

But US agents could not access the core machines that ran Pyongyang’s nuclear weapons programme, said another source, a former high-ranking intelligence official who was briefed on the programme.

May 9, 2018 at 5:58 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

gc

The Israelis showed in their recent exposé that the Iran deal was at best based on lies from the Tehran regime - one has to wonder if the Obamah administration knew about the extents of Iranian development efforts and chose to ignore them or if they were uninformed and took the Iranian assurances at face value.... - neither option is actually very reassuring.

The western media shows little interest in picking over the details - it is clear that the Iranians comprehensively lied in the run up to the 2015 deal - what isn't clear is if they have covertly continued to develop nuke weaponry after 2015 - they have been working on enhancing delivery systems.

Even within the actual terms of the agreement it would seem that the Iranians have not complied with what they signed up for.

There is little information out there on the extents of Iran's compliance with the terms of the deal - have they got more hidden centrifuges? Have they been testing implosion devices? Has any engineering work on nuclear bombs been done in the last 3 years?

What the Israelis appear to be showing is prior dishonesty - does that continue? - or have the mullahs and their chums actually sucked up the restrictions in return for elbow room in other areas?

Don't expect any clear answers from our media. The MSM appear disinterested in poking around the technical details - and in this matter the details are far more important than the posturing of the lame three Ms.

May 9, 2018 at 8:27 AM | Unregistered Commentertomo

elsewhere

The BBC reports that Michael Cohen - DJT's lawyer received payments from a Russian oligarch. - a lame smear at best.

I seriously doubt that there's a big legal practice in New York or Washington that doesn't have a rich Russian (or several) as a client - or aren't actively seeking one or several....

Of course the assorted antics of Fusion GPS and DNC retained lawyers with regard to Russian clients rarely if ever makes it onto the BBC's output - let alone the detail of bribes placed with US Democratic politicians with a view to diluting the Magnitsky laws.

The BBC is an embarrassment.

May 9, 2018 at 8:51 AM | Registered Commentertomo
May 9, 2018 at 9:10 AM | Registered Commentertomo

tomo,

"Last month the FBI seized papers from Mr Cohen's office following a request from Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating suspected Russian meddling in the 2016 election."

With every action by Mueller, a counter action against the Clinton Foundation gets more likely. Cherie and Tony Blair must be wondering about the consequences too.

For a Lawyer to pay (allegedly) a porn star to keep her mouth shut, and not make any noise, may indicate that both parties had different expectations about what the agreement involved.

May 9, 2018 at 9:17 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

gc

Ms. Daniels is profitably playing both sides off.

I'd wager that she's now had more money from Dems than she did from DJT ...

In terms of collusion between assorted Russians and American politicians the actual evidence seems to indicate that The Democratic Party and Clinton camps had far more going on than DJT...

As time passes and more information surfaces the doubling down of Mueller and the Democrats looks dodgier and dodgier - the "give 'em enough rope" approach looks to have not been noticed by some of the players.

May 9, 2018 at 9:42 AM | Registered Commentertomo

British spook involvement in Steele's dodgy dossier looks to have reached the JIC and Theresa's inner circle... and more... much more.

Twitter thread

May 9, 2018 at 12:53 PM | Registered Commentertomo
May 9, 2018 at 10:23 PM | Unregistered Commenterclipe

From VOX, 94% of experts say Trump is wrong. So he is probably right.

"But when you ask experts on international relations, the decision isn’t very controversial at all: An astonishing 94 percent of scholars think the president made the wrong choice."

"We know this thanks to a poll by the Teaching, Research, and International Policy (TRIP) organization, a group that regularly surveys international relations experts and asks them their opinion on major political controversies. (Full disclosure: I have served on TRIP’s advisory board in the past.)"

May 9, 2018 at 10:41 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie