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"I would hope she was carrying copious insurance for medical negligence. LOL.

Jul 30, 2020 at 1:02 PM Phil Clarke"

Has anyone other than Michael Mann been draining the Climate Science Defence Fund?

Jul 30, 2020 at 2:04 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

weirdly there were a bunch of other white coats in the video - why pick on Stella - racism?

A quick look through the CNN coverage of the video is more telling than anything in the video itself....

Stella Immanuel ... obviously does carry "copious" insurance since as I understand it you cannot function as an MD in the USA without it (well OK you can... but maybe not a good idea and state rules vary) - and if you are incompetent to the point of legal action - guess what - you are usually refused or priced out wrt insurance.

Eccentric doctors aren't exactly unknown.

If you keep killing your patients though - even in the NHS - it tends to get noticed.

Doctors on strike

Jul 30, 2020 at 4:30 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Hmmm, if bigotry is your concern check out Dr Demon Sperm's thoughts on same sex relationships.

And look into her skipping the state to avoid a malpractice lawsuit.....

Jul 30, 2020 at 5:49 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Scant evidence that Dr Demon Sperm's co-presenters have been anywhere near the COVID 'front line'.

Jul 30, 2020 at 6:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

there were a bunch of other white coats in the video - why pick on Stella - racism?

More to do with her being hilariously funny

'sides putting on a white coat is one thing, being, you know, a practising doctor in a relevant specialism is quite another.

Did someone just get played again? ;-)

Jul 30, 2020 at 6:49 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Jul 30, 2020 at 6:49 PM Phil Clarke
Were Hockey Teamsters wearing white coats as they plotted the deaths of millions with their bogus Peer Reviewed science?

Jul 30, 2020 at 9:35 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Like I said kittens and lasers - jolly good - thanks for the spadework + links. Did I endorse the group's view? I posted the link a) to nettle b) as an example of cancel culture.

Why so indignant about a bunch of randos who've just popped into existence - but get roundly pounced on by CNN et al = when Horton's lefty Lancet tosspottery barely elicits a murmur?

65% of US doctors over 55 have been sued at least once.

"hilariously funny"? ... in Nigerian terms she's really quite mild - you really should go there and try it.

Endorsement by Madonna a serious warning sign :-)

trot on Clarky

Jul 30, 2020 at 10:29 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Jul 30, 2020 at 10:29 PM tomo

I think it is the number of Hockey Teamsters that should be sued, or charged with Fraud, or Institutional manslaughter of millions that is causing Phil Clarke's panic responses.

Their collusion with Russians and the Chinese has been endorsed by Clinton.

Jul 30, 2020 at 10:45 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Want to Fix the Climate Crisis?

Start Listening to Black People


Rhiana Gunn-Wright, one of the architects of the Green New Deal, talks to Bloomberg Green about the connections between environmental policy, economic recovery, and defunding police

newconsenus.com

Bloomberg ....

reason for posting : they espouse "pandemic economics" and The Green New Deal, are rather opaque as to their funding and they have connections to Obama and Bernie Sanders....

Jul 30, 2020 at 11:10 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Want to Fix the Climate Crisis?
Start Listening to Black People

Jul 30, 2020 at 11:10 PM | tomo

Before criminal fraudster Climate Scientists kill off the poorest and weakest, so satisfy their greed

Jul 30, 2020 at 11:40 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Video of white BLM "protester" telling Stella Immanuel he's blacker on the inside than she is .... (RT)

pffff......

How come in a time of plague Riots for thee, but not for me

Jul 31, 2020 at 12:15 AM | Registered Commentertomo

A conundrum that it's safe to say won't be addressed by the MSM - it's not Grant Schapps in Spain.

John Lewis’s funeral was in Georgia. Dozens of Members of Congress were there.

Georgia is on Washington DC Mayor Bowser’s list of states that require mandatory quarantine for 14 days

whaddya reckon?

Jul 31, 2020 at 1:25 AM | Registered Commentertomo

Oh yeah, played like a violin.

The pro-hydroxy video featured about 10 white-coated individuals from 'America's Front line Doctors' in a self-described 'white coat summit'. Just like in the toothpaste adverts. However not all of these are actually licenced physicians, indeed this tiny group's numbers are made up of ophthalmologists, Fox News hydroxychloroquine boosters, and not forgetting the entertaing astral sex lady. But nobody who can plausibly claim to be anywhere near any 'front line'

You might think this is not exactly respectful of the health workers putting themselves in harms way and dying as a result.

Linking to this shit and citing 'cancel culture' is absurd on its face. In the video face masks are decried as useless and hydroxychloroquine is claimed to be a cure for COVID-19. Pure quackery. All the social media platforms that have scrubbed this have clear and sensible policies that forbid unproven therapeutic claims. They were written in calmer times to prevent people claiming blueberries cure cancer and the like. In a pandemic, these policies save lives.

Jul 31, 2020 at 11:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Jul 31, 2020 at 11:08 PM Phil Clarke
Whereas Hockey Teamsters are just self certified con artists, out to destroy lives for personal gain.

Jul 31, 2020 at 11:17 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Some disagree with me that Dr Stella Immanuel has any comedy value, but hey look at this..

Hello Facebook put back my profile page and videos up or your computers with start crashing till you do. You are not bigger that God. I promise you. If my page is not back up face book will be down in Jesus name.

Hang on, quick check.... Yep Jesus has not yet brought down the Facebook server farm. 😂

Jul 31, 2020 at 11:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Jul 31, 2020 at 11:42 PM | Phil Clarke

And corrupt lying climate scientists keep rewarding Mann and singing his praises, but none of them will give evidence in Court to support him.

Jul 31, 2020 at 11:51 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

I’m here because I have personally treated over 350 patients with COVID. Patients that have diabetes, patients that have high blood pressure, patients that have asthma, old people … I think my oldest patient is 92 … 87-year old. And the result has been the same. I put them on hydroxychloroquine, I put them on zinc, I put them on Zithromax, and they’re all well.

All of you doctors that are waiting for data, if six months down the line you actually found out that this data shows that this medication works, how about your patients that have died? You want a double-blinded study where people are dying? It’s unethical. So guys, we don’t need to die. There is a cure for COVID.


https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/07/hydroxy_hysteria_reaching_a_fever_pitch.html

"Journalistic Malpractice at the Associated Press"

https://spectator.org/david-klepper-coronavirus-misinformation-stella-immanuel/

Aug 1, 2020 at 12:11 AM | Unregistered Commenterclipe

No matter what the truth is about the drug, Dr Stella Immanuel is a nutter.

The chart of countries encouraging or discouraging it is highly flawed and useless as evidence. Each country's results have varied based on age groups, general health (esp obesity), accuracy of death reporting, health provision and even when their cases started to rise as medics have got better at treating cases. There may be countries that disprove the graph, eg Brazil or Norway. I don't know for sure about those countries would disagree with the graph but you get the idea - they've cherry picked countries. Some countries will allow people to buy any drug they want, others won't, so banning or not is a different issue.

I see no reason that professional doctors would be discounting the drug other than it genuinely doesn't have that much of an effect and/or the side effects if taken 'early enough' are as risky as the disease. If she's telling the truth (and it's a big if) then maybe she's only seeing people who would have got better anyway? Most people do. The more seriously ill may not end up in her clinic at all. Possibly the proactive administering of an antibiotic has prevented secondary pneumonia as that sort of thing is now heavily discouraged in normal medicine. I'm sure that it costs lives but the theory is that antibiotics become useless from overuse. Given that many developing and developed countries have no restrictions on antibiotics (including when used for animals), 'saving' antibiotics appears to be pointless.

I don't discount the drug but if Stella is the best coming forward now to endorse it...

Aug 1, 2020 at 9:45 AM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

The learning curve is imho more important than the infection curve, fail early, fail fast, learn and move on.

Hydroxycloroquine combination therapy (and the spread of the virus itself) has been bedevilled by partisan antics,

With Stella and her chums none of the news/information outlets I looked at when it "got noticed" listed them individually and the provenance of the group didn't get explored at all - the "otherness" of Dr. Immanuel though - that went impressively viral. Who organised the presser / video is at least as important as the content.


I like to think I know a bit about West Africa - putting Stella out front without working to a tight script - wow - that's a recipe for self harm.

I recall other incident involving a cat. One construction site I knew brought in a witch doctor to stop the thefts from site - it worked.

In all ... I wondered who are they?, why/how are they there

Aug 1, 2020 at 12:26 PM | Unregistered Commentertomo

Backed by the Tea Party Patriots. Pence is a fan.

Aug 1, 2020 at 12:54 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Too broad Phil

de debbil be in de detail


BBC Pidgin has some stuff about a sudden local celebrity

elsewhere

BBC headline now:

Pubs 'may need to shut' to allow schools to reopen

Not sure I see a connection tbh

Aug 1, 2020 at 1:59 PM | Registered Commentertomo

"Backed by the Tea Party Patriots. Pence is a fan.

Aug 1, 2020 at 12:54 PM Phil Clarke"

Climate Scientists can refuse to take it, no matter how close to death they are.

Unfortunately, the batshiite lying Climate Scientists are still killing millions.

Aug 1, 2020 at 2:42 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Some more "pure quackery" for our resident medical expert Dr Clark:

https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535

Aug 1, 2020 at 5:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

Meanwhile, 97% of Climate Science is complete quacking nonsense as the Internationasl Phil Clarke Collective have proved. And it was Peer Reviewed by Hockey Teamsters.

Aug 1, 2020 at 6:22 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie