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Has any one seen the film: Windfall

It looks interesting, about land abuses by wind power companies.

Jun 22, 2011 at 2:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterPatagon

Deadman - Ms Singer is well qualified to offer her opinions on CAGW and science in general. After all, she is a Lecturer in Media and Communications in the College of Design and Social Context at the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology.

Jun 22, 2011 at 3:10 AM | Unregistered CommenterGrantB

Meanwhile, yet another Australian columnist suggests that sceptics die:

I'm prepared to keep an open mind and propose another stunt for climate sceptics - put your strong views to the test by exposing yourselves to high concentrations of either carbon dioxide or some other colourless, odourless gas - say, carbon monoxide.
You wouldn't see or smell anything. Nor would your anti-science nonsense be heard of again. How very refreshing.

Jun 22, 2011 at 1:48 AM | Unregistered CommenterDeadman

This is what the strategy is

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jun/21/charles-secrett-open-letter-activists

The imperative is to hold government and industry to account at elections and between elections, at AGMs and throughout the year. If they don't respond, motivated electorates and shareholders can throw the bums out.

Jun 21, 2011 at 10:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterBreath of Fresh Air

Another entry from the Oz conversation site that the Bishop has been commenting on. Quite astonishingly called climate-change-denial-and-the-abuse-of-peer-review. Talk about upside-down Tiljander.

John Mashey (for it is he) enters the fray to tell we plebs in our southern backwater that he now refers to the Bishop as -

HWQDAJ = He Who Quotes from Dog Astrology Journal

The acronym just rolls of the tongue doesn't it. And he continues to use it throughout. Nevertheless, shame on you Andrew Montford.

You truly are worse than we thought.

Jun 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterGrantB

From the Times (behind the paywall).

Cooling effect foresters ‘are barking up wrong tree’
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article3067319.ece

It appears to be based on a study published in the journal Nature Geoscience.

Forest temperature effects
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/index.html

"Afforestation, the conversion of croplands or marginal lands into forests, is considered one of the key climate change mitigation strategies available to governments. Model simulations suggest that the temperature benefits of realistic afforestation efforts are marginal."

The Times has several quotes from Simon Lewis (AmazonGate) commencing with “There is not enough land on Earth to plant enough trees to mop up sufficient carbon dioxide to substantially reduce future global warming."

Jun 21, 2011 at 12:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterAJC

Courtesy of a poster by the name of Ross at WUWT, the latest from Australia's Tim Flannery:
http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/climate-plan-could-change-sky-colour/story-e6frfkp9-1111116384553

Jun 21, 2011 at 4:58 AM | Unregistered CommenterHaroldW

Barry - the BBC article points to things being much worse than we thought.

... the implications became far worse than we had individually realised...
...almost right across the board we're seeing changes that are happening faster than we'd thought, or in ways that we didn't expect to see for hundreds of years ...
"accelerated" changes include melting of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets, sea level rise, and release of methane trapped in the sea bed
[ at least now we know why Michael Mann has just released his latest hockeystick on sea-levels - but I wasn't aware that anybody had managed to reconstruct historical trends of the amount of methane being released from under the sea? And if these are increasing - might this effect be dwarfing CO2? ]
"The rate of change is vastly exceeding what we were expecting even a couple of years ago,"
if you look at almost everything, whether it's fisheries in temperate zones or coral reefs or Arctic sea ice, all of this is undergoing changes, but at a much faster rate than we had thought."
Life on Earth has gone through five "mass extinction events" caused by events such as asteroid impacts; and it is often said that humanity's combined impact is causing a sixth such event. But the trends are such that it is likely to happen, they say - and far faster than any of the previous five.
We've still got most of the world's biodiversity, but the actual rate of extinction is much higher
"We have to bring down CO2 emissions to zero within about 20 years," Professor Hoegh-Guldberg told BBC News.

[ What makes a coral expert competent to draw this sort of conclusion? ]

"But unlike previous generations, we know what now needs to happen .. The time to protect the blue heart of our planet is now."

[ vomit ]

Jun 21, 2011 at 12:05 AM | Unregistered Commentermatthu

More on the group behind BBC- Richard Black - Shocking State of the Oceans article -
BBC: World’s oceans in ‘shocking’ decline – Richard Black – 20th June 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13796479

The International Programme on the State of the Ocean (IPSO) was established by scientists with the mission statement aim of "saving the Earth and all life on it.”

http://www.stateoftheocean.org/index.cfm


27 attendees: (http://www.stateoftheocean.org/pdfs/1906_IPSO-LONG.pdf )

Professor Alan Rogers - University of Oxford

Barry Gardiner - Vice President Globe UK - Globe International
(good reason to be cynical alone - Lord Oxburgh) -

Dan Laffoley - Marine Vice Chair - International Union for Conservation of Nature

IUCN is a huge organisation -

The president of IUCN, is co-chair of UNEP, Co President Club of Rome, Chair of NGO at Rio,
Set up Ifoterra with Maurice Strong at UNEP,etc,etc
http://cmsdata.iucn.org/downloads/ashok_khosla_cv_for_iucn___eng.pdf

Kelly Rigg - Executive Director - Global Campaign for Climate Action -
http://tcktcktck.org/gcca-home-english/
http://tcktcktck.org/

Isn't this how the IPCC started..... they've even got someone from UEA along.

Jun 20, 2011 at 11:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterBarry Woods

Good post from Straight Statistics on the recent IPCC press release claim and examination of Salmond's claim of Scotland's 100% renewable energy:

http://www.straightstatistics.org/article/puffing-future-renewables

Jun 20, 2011 at 11:11 PM | Unregistered CommenterQ

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