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Paul Hudson on his BBC blog continues to advance a view seemingly at odds with that sanctioned by the good and the great when he argues that A sleeping sun could have a big impact on the UK's climate

But we should be under no illusions that if the sun does continue to be weaker than normal over a prolonged period of time, and it enters a so called 'Maunder minimum', then we could have to re-think what 'normal' weather means for the British Isles in the coming decades.

In winter, the UK would be much more vulnerable to cold air from the north & east. Summers could be cooler and unsettled. In fact the winters and summers we have experienced in the last few years could become the norm.

But some scientists disagree, and argue that such an event could significantly cool the planet. In a fascinating paper I wrote about over a year ago, and which you can read again here, Russian Scientist Dr Abdussamatov predicted in 2009 that the sun has a bi-centennial cycle, and will fall to a very low level of activity in the coming years. He concluded, contrary to the research published in Geophysical Research Letters, that warming due to man made greenhouse gases will be dwarfed by this 'solar cooling'.

This is a fascinating time for climate science and meteorology and there's the potential for far reaching consequences.

Jun 18, 2011 at 7:41 AM | Unregistered Commentermatthu

The Sydney Morning Herald is a paper that strongly pushes the CAGW line and the need for an Australian carbon dioxide tax. They of course call it a "price on carbon". Various commenters here have lamented the fact that hardly anyone in the MSM has any scientific or mathematical training.

Here is a pie chart representation in the SMH of a recent poll. See anything strange about it?

Jun 18, 2011 at 3:57 AM | Unregistered CommenterGrantB

It is getting interesting!!! See Mark's Lynas' latest responsehttp://www.marklynas.org/2011/06/questions-the-ipcc-must-now-urgently-answer/

Mark Lynas: That this was spotted at all is a tribute to the eagle eyes of Steve McIntyre. Yet I am told that he is a ‘denier’, that all his deeds are evil, and that I have been naively led astray by him.

Mark Lynas: Well, if the ‘deniers’ are the only ones standing up for the integrity of the scientific process, and the independence of the IPCC, then I too am a ‘denier’.

Jun 17, 2011 at 11:16 AM | Unregistered CommenterBarry Woods

The Mail Online can't make its mind up today ...

The new Ice Age: Climate change could slow as sun simmers down
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2004535/The-new-Ice-Age-Climate-change-slow-sun-simmers-down.html

Huge mirrors in the sky will be the future of tackling climate change, claim scientists
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2004454/Huge-mirrors-sky-future-tackling-climate-change-claim-scientists.html

Jun 17, 2011 at 9:59 AM | Unregistered CommenterAJC

Following their reporting on the IPCC and Greenpeace affair, there is today more evidence that The Independent is prepared to present a less one-sided view on climate change as they report on pole-to-pole flights which are showing that greenhouse gas concentrations are less homogeneously distributed than previously assumed by the climate models.

"It's not so much to prove the models wrong, it's to help the modellers do the right thing by giving them the data to show them whether they are right or not," said David Fahey of the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, one of the hundreds of scientists working on the Hippo project.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/poletopole-flights-gather-the-data-vital-to-predict-climate-change-2298707.html

Jun 17, 2011 at 7:18 AM | Unregistered Commentermatthu

There seems to be a concerted effort to talk about Geo-engineering at the moment. Just watching Newsnight, which has Susan Watt's dismissing the Solar Minimum as irrelevant before segueing seamlessly into a studio discussion (v excitedly) about Geo-engineering.

It really is something when the bloke interviewed from Greenpeace is the voice of sanity.

Jun 16, 2011 at 11:11 PM | Unregistered CommenterStuck-record

Must read:

On The Hijacking of the American Meteorological Society (AMS)


We AMS members have allowed a small group of AMS administrators, climate modelers, and CO2 warming sympathizers to maneuver the internal workings of our society to support AGW policies irrespective of what our rank-and-file members might think. This small organized group of AGW sympathizers has indeed hijacked our society.

To understand what is really occurring with regards to the AGW question one must now bypass the AMS, the mainstream media, and the mainline scientific journals. They have mostly been preconditioned to accept the AGW hypothesis and, in general, frown on anyone not agreeing that AGW is, next to nuclear war, our society’s most serious long range problem.

read the rest here:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/16/on-the-hijacking-of-the-american-meteorological-society-ams/#more-41788

Jun 16, 2011 at 8:35 PM | Unregistered Commentermatthu

Joe Romm, Think Progress (fromerly known as Climate Progress)

has a pop at Mark Lynas as well....
http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/06/16/246665/ipcc-renewables-2/

"So why have Andy Revkin and Mark Lynas used their blogs to attack the IPCC? Because the source of the obvious conclusion was apparently unacceptable to them — Greenpeace.

As an ironic aside, the “source” of this attack on the IPCC is one of the most thoroughly debunked and discredited disinformers Steven McIntyre. So I’m wondering whether we can now ignore Revkin and Lynas because they have used an infinitely less credible source than Greenpeace"

Jun 16, 2011 at 8:11 PM | Unregistered CommenterBarry Woods

Prince Charles being himself about 'climate change deniers' in Aus....

Prince Charles attacks 'climate deniers', tells Aussie business leaders to act on climate change

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/prince-charles-attacks-climate-deniers/story-e6frfkvr-1226076589474#ixzz1PT1u1U3z

Jun 16, 2011 at 8:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterBarry Woods

Link from Anthonys site providing some American background. This all needs to go mainstream.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/07/truth-about-realclimateorg.html

Jun 16, 2011 at 7:52 PM | Unregistered CommenterLord Beaverbrook

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