gc @ 6:59 PM last night: One ironic thing about this is that there is the taint of the classic 'Stockholm Syndrome' about this. Look at the level of denial, and tell me we haven't serfs beaten into submission. Beaten by themselves, predominantly, doesn't lessen the severity of the beating, merely adds poignance, even in some cases, perhaps, delight.
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Scourging is often penitence, but here, penitent for what? Insufficient dhimmitude? I dunno, I'm open for suggestions.
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Throughout the world, and history, different religions and cultures have clashed. Sadly some religions and cultures still do not accept crimes committed against those of other different religions and cultures as being crimes at all, as they believe them to be inferior in the eyes of "their God, and His Law".

Over the last few years, there have been some dreadful prosecutions in the UK, involving Moslem men preying on vulnerable children already in the care of Local Authorities. These gangs had been operating for years, but the Police and Local Authority Social Services Teams did nothing, for fear of accusations of "Racism".

For the UK/EU to pretend these crimes are not occurring, is not a good way to deal with the problem. For the UK/EU to allow people to be "verbally attacked" for pointing out this hypocrisy, is even worse.

Whilst the EU provides better "Rights" for those from outside the EU coming in, than for those who grew up in Europe, and treats them as second class citizens, the EU is not promoting equality.

Meanwhile, back at the thread about Trump ........

Trump has realised how US generosity has been abused, and those that have suffered the most, are the lower paid and unemployed holders of US Passports. Trump has already started to do something about it.

Yet he "probably" didn't do as much as he could have done and should have "burrowed into" the issue, he said. "I think there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat, if I may put it like that."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/30/rotherham-girls-could-have-been-spared-ann-cryer

This is a good one. Hypothetical...but

One user asked Cuomo, "What do you tell a 12-year-old girl who doesn't want to see a penis in the locker room?"

"I wonder if she is the problem or her overprotective and intolerant dad? teach tolerance," Cuomo responded, implying the daughter's opinion was in fact not hers, but her father's.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cnns-chris-cuomo-goes-off-on-trumps-transgender-guidelines-in-90-tweets/article/2615624

Ween her Weiner's weiner.
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I thought it was very funny that those gazillion emails were filed under 'life insurance'.
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Feb 24, 2017 at 5:58 PM | husq
you give credit to The Guardian, and I am pleased to do the same:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/03/child-sexual-exploitation-minds-all-time-oxfordshire-kingfisher

I am also happy to state that (in my experience) the abuse carried out by these scumbags is NOT representative of Islam. I have been hoping that with the jailing of Anjem Choudary, and exposure of widespread fraud by Phil Shiner, mainstream Islam in the UK would not be so frightened of denouncing the murderous thugs. Sadly, not. Unless the BBC et al are too frightened to Broadcast it?

Fom the BBC's own Website, this:

"Reporters from the BBC, The New York Times, CNN and other outlets were excluded from a briefing by the White House press secretary Sean Spicer. No reason was given, but Associated Press and Time magazine boycotted the so-called gaggle in protest."

Perhaps Trump saw the BBC laughing at him. On ITV tonight, Trump reiterated that he is representing the USA, not the Globe.

Not just misogynistic, but deluded, smug, and laughing past the graveyard.
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Feb 24, 2017 at 10:57 PM | tomo

When the Calais Jungle was cleared, the "children" rescued by the UK all seemed to be male, and needed to shave. It is Politically Incorrect to point this out.

tomo, I think it is to do with "Targets", "Key Performance Indicators" and other wonderful management tools.

It does not matter if it is Whitehall, the Police, NHS, Local Authorities, Schools etc, once KPIs are set as standards to be achieved or surpassed, it is easier to work out ways to achieve the required level, than to do anything different to improve the service being provided. It just depends on how information is required to be reported.

"Getting Tough on Immigration", is easy, just by asking awkward questions of those who have never sought to be secretive. Asking awkward questions of those with good reason to be secretive, can easily be portrayed as racist harassment, and can attract bad publicity. "Picking the low hangjng fruit" is the Management Buzzphrase that sums it up.

Trump has been honest, so he is portrayed by Progressives as a Racist. I am very glad about the achievements of Nigel Farage, but that does not mean I have joined UKIP. Progressives find it easier to portray honesty, as Racism, if it challenges their diktats.

@Tomo

>One of the English language FM stations in 1980s UAE used to have an imam pontificating about Islam (mostly laying out prescribed behavior) one evening a week - maybe a Friday. The things he used to say about women and explicit sexual matters were to my ears insane - causing initially amusement and then by turns astonishment and anger.<

The fact that bacha bazi, which has normalized sodomy and child abuse in rural Afghan society, developed within a deeply fundamentalist Islamic region of the world is mystifying. According to a 2009 Human Terrain Team study titled “Pashtun Sexuality,” Pashtun social norms dictate that bacha bazi is not un-Islamic or homosexual at all — if the man does not love the boy, the sexual act is not reprehensible, and is far more ethical than defiling a woman.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/an-afghan-tragedy-the-pashtun-practice-of-having-sex-with-young-boys-8911529.html

@Tomo

>In 1980s Saudi Arabia men masturbating in public was something that was erm.. disconcerting. <

Hence the thawb? Man love thursdays too.

@GC

>Trump has been honest, so he is portrayed by Progressives as a Racist.<

I'm with this Lady on race.

“I am an African American,” says Duana Fullwiley, “but in parts of Africa, I am white.” To do fieldwork as a medical anthropologist in Senegal, she says, “I take a plane to France, a seven- to eight-hour ride. My race changes as I cross the Atlantic. There, I say, ‘Je suis noire,’ and they say, ‘Oh, okay—métisse—you are mixed.’ Then I fly another six to seven hours to Senegal, and I am white. In the space of a day, I can change from African American, to métisse, to tubaab [Wolof for “white/European”]. This is not a joke, or something to laugh at, or to take lightly. It is the kind of social recognition that even two-year-olds who can barely speak understand. ‘Tubaab,’ they say when they greet me.”

“There is no genetic basis for race,” says Fullwiley, who has studied the ethical, legal, and social implications of the human genome project with sociologist Troy Duster at UC, Berkeley.

http://harvardmagazine.com/2008/05/race-in-a-genetic-world-html

And this is interesting too.

Race and Diversity like you wont hear discussed today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ade_8hpWjFA

IMO to accuse someone of being racist, is actually quite regressive not progressive.