Discussion > President Trump
A good day for irony fans. The man who told up to 25 lies a day during his campaign, whose PR person invented the term 'alternative facts', a man who gets his foreign intelligence from Fox, has banned spreaders of fake news' from a press briefing.
Auntie is now an enemy of the American People. Who knew?
Corrected link to Tim Cast's Malmo film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu-wlnUOruU
Problems like you wouldn't believe.
Auntie is now an enemy of the American People. Who knew?
Phil, I for one had figured it out. Aunty was campaigning on behalf of Crooked Hillary and I would classify that alone as an unfriendly act.
Your narrative has the heebie jeebies, eh, Phil? Keep calm and carry on.
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Interesting link Phil. I was particularly taken by the comment -
"Trump gets things wrong all the time, pointlessly, about almost everything, and almost never corrects himself. Even if he’s not intentionally lying, he’s habitually erring. At very least, it suggests a serial carelessness with facts and a serial resistance to conceding error. Both traits seem relevant...."
Refers to the campaign but it would appear that there has been little change.
Supertroll / PC
uhhh.... the lies? ... the pot and the kettle ....? The slime and invective has been flying in both directions
"CNN / BBC etc. get things wrong all the time, pointlessly, about almost everything, and almost never correct themselves. Even if they're not intentionally lying, they're habitually erring. At very least, it suggests a serial carelessness with facts and a serial resistance to conceding error. Both traits seem relevant...."
there ... FIFY
None of them are on any Vatican list for canonisation.
@PC glad you can now see the humdrum banality of life in Sweden. No comment to make then about the persistent theme of the fear ostracism (or worse) for voicing some small dissent?
No observations on the gender balance of the immigrants? - it is after all a favorite progressive topic.
Heh, HE got Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan wrong, but SHE, uh well.
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There's a corollary to the newspaper effect someone noted above. In climate and energy, with Perry, Pruitt, Tillerson, Sessions and Happer, Trump has picked a quintet upon which I could hardly improve. These are areas I know about, and Trump purportedly doesn't, rather, in which he wasn't expected to have knowledge.
Maybe the harder he works the luckier he gets.
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Heh, read about Rene Zagrafos, whose HuffPo article generally supporting Trump's view of Europe's immigration problems was removed some hours after posting. The Cone of Silence descends over those denying.
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I think the Media skirmishes are just a sideshow.
There is coordinated opposition, using Twitter accounts, within what we would call the Civil Service. It is stopping elected people do their job, so I can see interesting times ahead, especially when we see this quote:
“The goals and methods of these accounts vary widely. Some stick to spreading scientific facts and research performed by their agencies, especially regarding climate change,” David Thornton [B.A. in English :) ], FederalNewsRadio.com’s digital editor reported."
Breitbart: Manning: Sabotage of Trump Agenda by Bureaucrats Should Spark ’10 to 20 Percent Reduction of Federal Workforce’
Feb 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM | Phil Clarke
Has William M Connolley redefined the Wikipedia entry on "Irony", for the personal understanding and benefit of Climate Scientists?
"Auntie is now an enemy of the American People. Who knew?" Pretty much everybody Phil. Keep digging though, you might find it's got a "right on" left wing agenda and doesn't respect working class people and their views, or even that it doesn't present news that threaten that agenda.
The BBC "doesn't respect working class people and their views"
Who knew?
Feb 26, 2017 at 10:18 AM | Supertroll
Many fortunes have been made in China, India etc by exporting jobs from the UK, EU and US. Working class people supplying US, UK and EU markets don't speak English, or any other European language anymore. They may be very grateful to the BBC, even if they do not understand a word they say. Apparently, this is Progress.
The UK Labour Party remain unable to agree about how they are machine gunning their own Left Footers, and their right feet too.
If Labour are trying to celebrate beating UKIP, a party they have labelled as extreme right wing, in the recent By Elections, they are acknowledging that that is where they have seen their traditional support go. How are they going to win them back? The BBC is left in a quandary, partially of their own decision making, and loyalties.
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>Many fortunes have been made in China, India etc by exporting jobs from the UK, EU and US. <
Quite.
A Trade War with China? 2005
U.S. importers with dominant positions in China, such as Wal-Mart and Hallmark, have the power to compel Chinese suppliers to keep their costs as low as possible. Wal-Mart alone purchased $18 billion worth of Chinese goods in 2004, making it China's eighth-largest trading partner -- ahead of Australia, Canada, and Russia.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/asia/2005-07-01/trade-war-china
The BBC "doesn't respect working class people and their views"
Who knew?
The working class people who voted Brexit for starters.
"The BBC "doesn't respect working class people and their views. Who knew?" Pretty much everybody,but I don't know what Phil knows.
Phil. Don't you find it so dispiriting to be debating those here who are so so knowledgeable about all subjects - the inner thoughts and feelings of the British working man regarding the BBC to Trump's real meaning when he screws up?
Heh, Dispirited Phil, he do answer when you do call him.
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Heh, A, 'screw-up'. The screw-up was poorly managed immigration policy. Bringing attention to the need for better management is hardly a 'screw-up' unless you want to remain screwed.
And Phil sneering about icy patches is priceless. That's a helluva man you've let slither into your foxhole.
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kim. Were you perhaps thinking of the ghost story "Oh, Whistle, And I'll Come To You, My Lad" by M. R. James? The story of an academic who finds a whistle which when blown, unleashes a supernatural force that terrorises its discoverer. Never thought of geronimo and company in that light.
Something's in the kitchen with Dinah,
Something's in the kitchen I know, I know oh,
Something's in the kitchen with Dinah....
Dinah blow your horn.
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I am not dispirited, this too shall pass, any more than this is debating. but this seems apposite
Don Rote a Buk.
Here's Martin Amis reviewing it:
Paradoxically, the constituency of America’s foremost Winner is to be found among America’s losers. White, heterosexual, and male, they have discovered that the prestige of being white, heterosexual, and male has been inexplicably sapped. At the same time they imagine that their redemption lies with Trump, Inc., which has the obvious credentials (“We manage ice-skating rinks, we produce TV shows, we make leather goods, we create fragrances, and we own beautiful restaurants”) to turn it around for the non-rich and the non-educated (as well as for the non-colored, the non-gay, and the non-female).Telling it like it is? Yes, but telling what like what is? What he is actually telling us is that the residual Republican hankers for a political contender who knows nothing at all about politics.
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Emotionally primitive and intellectually barbaric, the Trump manifesto would be a reasonably good sick joke — if it weren’t for one deeply disturbing observation, which occurs on page 163. Every now and again Americans feel the need to exalt and heroize an ignoramus. After Joe the Plumber, here is Don the Realtor — a “very successful” realtor, who, it is superstitiously hoped, can apply the shark-and-vulture practices of big business to the sphere of world statesmanship.
http://harpers.org/archive/2016/08/don-the-realtor/
Of course, Amis's animadversions must be read in the knowledge that the Don does not actually write 'his' books any more than he administered the now defunct and fraudulent 'University' that bore his name.
If he were writing “The Art of the Deal” today, Schwartz said, it would be a very different book with a very different title. Asked what he would call it, he answered, “The Sociopath.”
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all
Americans now have the president they deserve. I hope he's everything they wished for.
Citizen crowdfunded journalism - this must terrify the BBC
Here is his report from the Living Hell that is Malmo. Including a perilous foray into the journalistic no go area of Rosengard, where he takes his life into his hands on some untreated icy pavement.