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"Shredded" 😂😂😂 - you need a new dictionary, Phil......

Nov 11, 2020 at 1:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Ayyadurai#COVID-19_misinformation

Nov 11, 2020 at 1:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

From what I understand it is even more stupid than that. He is looking at % of trump votes among individual voters (individual as in, voted for Trump for president but no R candidates down-ballot) as a function of % of voters in the district that voted straight R ticket (only for republicans).

The kicker is: the y-axis is plotting % of people that voted for trump among individual voters MINUS % of people that voted republican straight party ticket. Just think about it: if Trump always received 0 votes from people that did not also vote R down ballot, the graph would be a straight line with coefficient -1 (because he would be plotting 0 - %RSP vs $RSP). In reality that is not the case, but unless one believes that even in deep red counties there will be the same proportion of people that vote Trump but don't vote R down ballot as people that vote for only red candidates, the curve shouldn't even be close to what he claims is the 'zero'.

His assertions about Wayne county not showing this straight line are also completely dishonest. Look at the graph for Oakland county and the region where he says the line is 'straight' (as in a slope of 0): he picked that value COMPLETELY arbitrarily. It just so happens that he chose about 20% or so, but he could also have chosen 30% and could argue as well that it is also a 'straight' line (note that all of this is being very loose with the data, and people good at statistics would tell you to never do any of this). Now look at the graph for Wayne county. He claims that it is 'straight' all the way, but in this case the x axis only goes up to 35% (with actual data only until about 30% or so). It doesn't actually look that different from the Oakland county data at all if you put them on the same scale.

This dude should go back to MIT and demand his money back, he has been swindled.

Presumably you've sat through the whole thing, M. Is this critique incorrect? Why?

Nov 11, 2020 at 1:43 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Too late Phil - the information avalanche is already happening. Nothing can stop what is coming, nothing.....

Not even the Big Corporate propaganda machine....

Too many concerned citizens doing their own digging, and by the way 'pede' refers to 'Truthseeker'

https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8O2wesk/happening-calling-every-pede-to-/


"EVERY THING YOU'RE ABOUT TO READ IS VERIFIED AND WAS MADE BY THIS PEDE [CENTIPEDE] HE DID ALL THE HEAVY WORK
🏆 https://thedonald.win/u/PedeInspector/ 🏆
BTW IF YOU CAN HELP DOWNLOAD EVERYTHING AND KEEP A LOCAL COPY.. IN THE CODE WHERE YOU CAN GET INFO FOR ALL THE STATES, DOWNLOAD FOR ALL THE STATES.
REMINDER: THIS DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE HUNDRED THOUSANDS OF TRUMP VOTES DESTROYED, BURNED AND RIPPED APART, THE THOUSANDS OF BALLOTS JUST MARKED FOR BIDEN. THIS IS THE EVIDENCE WE'VE FOUND SO FAR.

PEDES GET IN HERE.
I saw the video on The Gateway Pundit [
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-huge-another-system-glitch-captured-live-cnn-election-night-20000-votes-swapped-trump-biden-video/
] and I decided to do some digging of my own, into a more reputable source that can verify that the glitch was indeed real, and that it affected the votes, instead of it being just a display glitch on that news channel. So I went digging into the Edison data [

https://static01.nyt.com/elections-assets/2020/data/api/2020-11-03/race-page/pennsylvania/president.json] and I found this damning evidence [ https://i.maga.host/RNPN3Oz.png

]. As can be seen in the image, only 54 votes were added, but the ratio changed in Biden's favor by a whole 0.6%! This is proof that not only did the glitch happen, but it doesn't seem to have been reverted at all.
EDIT : BIG UPDATE, I made a script to run through the data and gather all instances where votes switched from Trump to Biden, Lost Votes means that the total amount of votes counted decreased by that amount throughout the counting. I've only done states that use Dominion Voting Systems so far.
EDIT 2: Added ALL the states, and separated by voting systems, although no state uses exclusively one system as far as I know.
Edit 3: Re-ordered the states, first by switched votes, then by lost votes.
🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
Switched votes are votes that were taken from Trump and given to Biden.
Lost votes are voted that disappeared during the counting, from both candidates.
There might be a small overlap between Switched votes and Lost votes."

Dominion Voting Systems :

Pennsylvania : Switched : 220,883 Lost Votes : 941,248
New Jersey : Switched : 80,242 Lost Votes : 20
Florida : Switched : 21,422 Lost Votes : 456
Michigan : Switched : 20,213 Lost Votes : 21,882
New York : Switched : 18,124 Lost Votes : 623,213
Georgia : Switched : 17,407 Lost Votes : 33,574
Ohio : Switched : 14,965 Lost Votes : 5,102
Virginia : Switched : 12,163 Lost Votes : 789,023
California : Switched : 7,701 Lost Votes : 10,989
Arizona : Switched : 4,492 Lost Votes : 0
Minnesota : Switched : 2,766 Lost Votes : 195,650
Tennessee : Switched : 2,330 Lost Votes : 0
Louisiana : Switched : 2,322 Lost Votes : 0
Illinois : Switched : 2,166 Lost Votes : 54,730
Wisconsin : Switched : 2,078 Lost Votes : 3,408
Colorado : Switched : 1,809 Lost Votes : 0
Utah : Switched : 1,627 Lost Votes : 0
New Hampshire : Switched : 973 Lost Votes : 116
Iowa : Switched : 938 Lost Votes : 477
New Mexico : Switched : 268 Lost Votes : 4,610
Missouri : Switched 0 : Lost Votes : 20,730
Nevada : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0
Alaska : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0
Washington : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0
Hawaii : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0
Kansas and Texas use Premier Election Solutions, owned by Dominion Voting Systems.
Texas : Switched : 14,954 Lost Votes : 30,557
Kansas : Switched : 1,674 Lost Votes : 2,154
Election Systems & Software :
Nebraska : Switched : 30,086 Lost Votes : 50
Kentucky : Switched : 8,129 Lost Votes : 23,849
Arkansas : Switched : 3,664 Lost Votes : 20,748
South Carolina : Switched : 2,779 Lost Votes : 2,119
Montana : Switched : 2,330 Lost Votes : 1,276
South Dakota : Switched : 1,347 Lost Votes : 1
North Dakota : Switched : 234 Lost Votes : 681
Maryland : Switched : 203 Lost Votes : 0
North Carolina : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 15
District of Columbia : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0


Oh and Dominion voting Systems is the organization in which Pelosi's Chief of Staff is a major executive and Diane Feinsteins husband Richard Blum is a major shareholder.

Nov 11, 2020 at 3:21 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Wow. Smoking Gun right there. Looks like Dominion wrote fraud right into the software and put the evidence online for everyone to see. Yeah, that could happen. Oh, wait, what's this in the comments?

PLEASE READ, THIS SEEMS TO BE FAKE/A MISTAKE/A RED HERRING!!!
And it will only make us look very bad. Unless I'm wrong, then please prove me wrong. But I dont think I am.

While the data provided is very interesting, the script that analyzes the data is inherently flawed.

It only checks for updates where Trump lost votes and Biden gained votes. It does not check for anything else, nor does it check for updates where Biden lost votes and Trump gained votes, and from what I've found, this seems to be just as frequent

Looks to me like someone took the data from a perfectly normal, bog standard real time updating process, did a flawed and skewed analysis of corrections and yelled FRAUD.

I thought folks around here prided themselves on their 'scepticism'?

A former aide to Pelosi has represented Dominion as a lobbyist, but so have lobbyists who worked for Republicans. Claims that Feinstein’s husband, Richard Blum, holds a stake in Dominion are baseless.

AP News

Nov 11, 2020 at 4:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

So we're supposed to ignore all the data for one comment that doesn't give any examples.

No, I don't think so!!!

Perhaps you can give examples of all those instances when the votes switched from Biden to Trump then Phil???

After all we have many examples of Trump to Biden switches but then oops were't they supposed to be 'manual' errors.

Funny how the excuses keep changing lol!!

"Nobody was following Joe Biden and he had zero support, and yet his vote count surpassed the greatest campaign in US history led by President Trump.

We are supposed to believe Joe Biden defeated President Trump and at the same time lost seats in the US House and state legislatures. This is highly improbable.

It looks like the Democrats did everything imaginable in their attempt to steal this election.

The problem was they never expected President Trump to lead a record breaking campaign and they got caught."

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-analysis-election-night-data-states-shows-millions-votes-either-switched-president-trump-biden-lost/

Sorry Phil there's just too much data out there....

Nov 11, 2020 at 5:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Awful lot of straw being used in Trumpland. Building “strong” foundations for a Trump revival
Awful lot of bilge being consumed in Bishop Hill. Building garbage.

Nov 11, 2020 at 5:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK

Oh, and you're pretty desperate if you use AP, Phil LOL!!!

Haven't I told you about using these 'fact-checking' stunts - pure propaganda!!

Nov 11, 2020 at 5:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

This “Discussion” has become a veritable coconut shy. You put them up and Phil knocks them down, it must be getting embarrassing.

Nov 11, 2020 at 5:40 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK

Associated Press = Unreliable
The Gateway Pundit = Gospel Truth.
Some random nutter on the internet = solid proof of fraud.

Got it, thanks.

Nov 11, 2020 at 6:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

From user –fsvantesson 

And here is example results from ohio
-----
Total sum of votes gained/lost for both candidates
TRUMP TOTAL 3,072,524
BIDEN TOTAL 2,605,593
-----
No. times 'A' gained votes while 'B' lost votes
SHIFTS TO TRUMP 7
SHIFTS TO BIDEN 3
-----
No. votes that has been shifted
SHIFTED TO TRUMP 23,010
SHIFTED FROM TRUMP 14,965
SHIFTED TO BIDEN 1,092
SHIFTED FROM BIDEN 12,702
-----
Total votes gained and lost
TRUMP WIN 3,092,295
TRUMP LOSS 19,770
BIDEN WIN 2,623,227
BIDEN LOSS 17,634

If you look at the code they are deriving the votes from the vote share, the share is only stored to 3 dp (so 51.1 percent is 0.511). When you are dealing in millions of votes that is not sufficient accuracy. Pretty sure this 'fraud' is actually a rounding error. LOL.

Nov 11, 2020 at 6:26 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

No...... don't ever believe the Fake News MSM.

Who can forget this young man - a teenager - the press pilloried him, hounded him, made his life a misery in a media frenzy over a short edited clip. The pressure was so great his school issued an apology, he and his family received death threats. The reason, he was pilloried - he was wearing a MAGA hat when he attended an anti-abortion rally. They ran with a totally false narrative that fitted their agenda.

Did the BBC ever issue a retraction of or apology for his article- no they didn't. It still stands.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46935701

When the full clip came out it was obvious than Nathan Phillips a known activist had actually been the aggressor -

"Video of the encounter showed Phillips walking up to Sandmann and standing very close to him, with Sandmann staring, and at times smiling, as Phillips sang and banged a drum in his face"

Well Nick Sandmann is a very wealthy young man now after receiving huge sums settled out of court ....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8663159/Covington-Catholic-teen-Nick-Sandmanns-settlement-CNN-nearly-revealed-court-quirk.html

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2020/october/nick-sandmann-wins-another-legal-victory-against-four-major-media-outlets

But he can never have a normal life now, recognised wherever he goes...

Nov 11, 2020 at 7:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Oh Phil, really!!!

Wasn't aware that OHIO was one of the BATTLEGROUND states where the vast majority of the fraud occurred

And interesting to note that Biden underperformed Clinton/Obama in the cities, EXCEPT in the key battleground states - Michigan
Pennsylvania
Georgia
Wisconsin

Nov 11, 2020 at 7:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

James Delingpole on the election -

"And they’re doing it, I can’t help feeling, for the shallowest of reasons. They’re treating President Trump a bit like teenagers treat their Dad when he’s taken them to a restaurant and he complains about the service and the food. Sure the waiters have been slow and rude and the food has tasted like pigswill — and if customers don’t take a stand on this then the waiters will carry on being slow and rude and the food will go on tasting like pigswill forever. But as far as those sassy teenagers are concerned, it’s Dad who is the problem here. He’s embarrassing them by making a scene — and he shouldn’t do that because that’s embarrassing, undignified, unpresidential…

This is exactly where we are right now. President Trump believes he has reason to suspect this election has been stolen from him and he may or may not be right. You don’t know. I don’t know. But there certainly appears to be enough circumstantial evidence to suggest that he has a case at the very least strong enough for nobody — not you Dan Hannan, not you Andrew Neil, not you Boris Johnson, not you Brendan O’Neil — to be in a position where, in any conscience, they can declare the election for Joe Biden.

Well, I hope and pray they are proved wrong and if they are proved wrong I can promise I won’t gloat because frankly, I won’t be any mood for gloating. All I’m feeling right now is contempt and disgust at my fellow ‘conservatives’. They remind me of the ones who betrayed Margaret Thatcher — and I don’t think the vile taste is going to go away for a very long time, if indeed it ever does, you utter, utter scumbags."

Interesting that he names Andrew Neil. There is clearly a lot of "discussion" taking place in the Spectator's offices. I've heard from people there that it is quite "heated".

Article link :

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/11/11/im-sick-of-the-roll-over-and-die-conservatives-crawling-to-biden/

Cue NYT, WP, Salon or Guardian 'debunk' from Clarke.

Nov 11, 2020 at 8:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

Here's a line from the json data file the pedes are using


{"bidenj":0.497,"trumpd":0.491},"votes":6756903,"eevp":98,"eevp_source":"edison","timestamp"
:"2020-11-08T18:36:39Z"},{"vote_shares":

It does not contain the vote count for each candidate, just a total. To get vote totals the code multiplies each candidate's vote share by the overall total. But the share only has 3dp, so could round up or down by 0.0005. For this particular data line that means the candidate vote totals are accurate to around +/- 3,000 votes.

A fail at GCSE maths level, never mind calling fraud on a presidential election. Embarassing.

Nov 11, 2020 at 8:40 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

It's all for show.

The longer Trump stays silent, the more I worry he is planning something really, really mad.

Nov 11, 2020 at 11:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

“Golf as displacement activity”, by Donald Trump (without Tony Schwartz this time). Four years in the writing. One tweet after another after another - all linked by “wonderful, wonderful righting”. “Who needs a presidential library when you have written two fantastic best sellers and built golf courses.”

Nov 12, 2020 at 11:17 AM | Unregistered CommenterAK

The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.

- CYBERSECURITY & INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY AGENCY ( A division of the Department for Homeland Security).

Meanwhile Trump is retweeting the flawed analysis from the 'Pede' script-kiddies. They must be proud.

Nov 13, 2020 at 11:02 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

"The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.
- CYBERSECURITY & INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY AGENCY ( A division of the Department for Homeland Security)."

Oh indeed - I'm sure they were monitoring it all. After all didn't they apply for a blockchain encryption patent back in August?

It's called the ART OF WAR, Phil, and PRESIDENT TRUMP is a brilliant strategist, but no doubt we'll know soon enough 😉

Meanwhile all his enemies are digging a gigantic hole for themselves with the whole world watching.

It will be the biggest STING in history, a HUGE GIANT TAKEDOWN.

😂😂😂

Nov 13, 2020 at 8:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

"It's all for show." - the one comment I actually agreed with 😉

😀 😀😀

Nov 13, 2020 at 8:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

Arizona and Georgia called for Biden. Way beyond any recount.

Biden's popular vote lead stretches to 5.3 million.

Trump's law firm in Pennsylvania jump ship.

The people have spoken. His divisive, toxic, xenophobic, neoliberal brand of politics has been decisively rejected. Donald J Trump is a one-term loser.

Break out the champagne.

Nov 13, 2020 at 11:15 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke
Nov 14, 2020 at 4:43 AM | Unregistered Commenter.

https://twitter.com/AhmedBaba_/status/1327364137249361927

Nov 14, 2020 at 12:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Nov 13, 2020 at 11:15 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

"Biden's popular vote lead stretches to 5.3 million"

😂😂😂 Total fantasy Phil - the American people know better - they've lived through the election seen the massive, massive crowds, turning out for Trump compared to the paltry few for Biden, the flotillas, the motorcades, the chants, never before has there been so much support for a president - the fact he got 73m votes even in a manipulated election (the true number will be far far bigger than that) - no amount of propaganda can replace.

Pennsylvania for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSjz9dD1-DY

There are many, many more examples from all around the country.

President Trump had an increased percentage of the vote from ALL demographics except we're supposed to believe from White Males!!!!! Pure fantasy - white males are at the very bottom of the pile in DNC world.

You haven't come across ANY similar rallies for Biden have you - that's because there isn't any. We're really supposed to believe that Biden who stood for open Borders, increased taxation, free healthcare for illegals (when many Americans have had to opt out and pay fines because they couldn't afford the premiums), Green New Deal, China, lockdowns and masks, shady deals with the Chinese and against the 2nd amendment, energy independence and America First not to mention a 47 year record of failure, gained so much more of the popular vote (even more that Obama's 69m) - pure fantasy!!

"The people have spoken" - they certainly have - and they're not about to have the election stolen from them by a corrupt Global Cabal and complicit Big Tech and MSM, nor will Trump, a true representative of the people, allow it to happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxGe3Nfnrgo

President Trump is about to fulfil another of his election promises and "DRAIN THE SWAMP" 😀😀😀

Nov 14, 2020 at 2:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion