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Discussion > President Trump

If the US "consolidated" Covid Relief actually went to individuals - it'd be $14000 each

Jan 3, 2021 at 4:54 PM | Registered Commentertomo

https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/1345766504697131010

Jan 3, 2021 at 5:02 PM | Registered Commentertomo

So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.

Yeah, let's not go mad, just 'find' the votes we need, not one more.

Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong

WaPo

They counted the votes in Georgia. Then they counted them again by hand. Then they counted them a third time. Each count showed a five-figure majority for Biden. Just one reason Cruz et al are just jacking off.

Jan 3, 2021 at 8:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Drive-by shooting of Georgia poll worker home

Democrats objected to results of 2000, 2004 and 2016 US elections

Jan 4, 2021 at 4:09 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Pedantically speaking, no. An electoral college objection must be backed in writing by a member of the House and a member of the Senate, which did not happen in 2016 or 2000. In fact it was Joe Biden and Al Gore who enforced the rules in those sessions.

The 2004 objection is not really comparable, it was to highlight voter suppression in Ohio and was never an attempt to change the outcome, heck, John Kerry had already conceded.

The symmetry is a thing of beauty. Cruz et al are objecting to voter fraud at a time when the only hard evidence of serious abuse of the process is a recording of The Donald leaning on the top election official in Georgia to 'find' him some votes. Audit that!

Jan 4, 2021 at 7:22 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Preparations are progressing to provision Trump Tower in Manhattan as @therealWhiteHouse

Jan 5, 2021 at 3:48 PM | Unregistered Commenter.

And is Melania going to spend Inauguration Day in Scotland?

Jan 5, 2021 at 4:32 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Apparently Dominion voting machines in Georgia have been malfunctioning today ..... tsk...

Jan 5, 2021 at 5:17 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Pelosi could end up President if the election remains contested....

something to chew on?

Jan 5, 2021 at 6:24 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Impossible. It's only contested by crazy people. The joint session tomorrow is largely ceremonial. Pence has no power to do anything other than count out loud. There will be objections to the electors sent by some swing states, but for these to stand they must receive majorities in both the Senate and the House. The chances of the House Democrats voting to overturn a Biden-won state vote are somewhere between snowballs and zero. It's Game Over.

Jan 5, 2021 at 7:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke
Jan 6, 2021 at 1:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Extraordinary pictures from the Capitol. MAGA-capped protestors stormed the barricades, broke the windows and are now inside the chambers with an armed standoff outside the Senate chamber. A woman is in critical condition after reportedly being shot in the chest.

Trump did not incite this explicitly, but has so far done almost nothing to lower the temperature. He should call them off, this is beyond any legal 'peaceful protest'.

Pence is tense.

Jan 6, 2021 at 8:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Good news - Ivanka has said the violence must stop.

Less good news, she described the anarchic mob who forced their way into the legislature as 'American Patriots'.

https://twitter.com/ricardodpda/status/1346918658778435584/photo/1

(Original deleted).

They're in the Speaker's office now. Writing her a nice note. Entire DC National Guard mobilised as multiple officers have been injured, one hospitalised.

https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1346918809240797191

Jan 6, 2021 at 9:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Finally.

Go home, you lovely, special people.

Jan 6, 2021 at 9:23 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Twitter is blocking ... as is Google - DJT ordered in The National Guard some time ago....

It's going to be a week or more before we get some perspective (from smartphone footage) - in the meantime the perps should be rounded up + thrown in the tank and processed .... if they aren't - it'd explain the remarkable lack of overt AntiFa around the place - DC has had its share of AntiFa protests and counter protests - they all decided to stay at home today?

Literally half of my Twitter feed has suddenly filled up with trash adverts.

Jan 6, 2021 at 9:31 PM | Registered Commentertomo

... and why does CNN keep calling the Capitol invaders anarchists?

A pipe bomb found and safely detonated at the Republican National Committee headquarters...

rum business...

even SquareSpace is having the wobbles....

Ukrainian protestors occupied Maidan square in Ukraine for weeks. Victoria Nuland brought them cookies.

Jan 6, 2021 at 9:48 PM | Registered Commentertomo

- and now the authorities are apparently just escorting the invaders off the Capitol premises without ID-ing them ?

- that is a tad weird?

Jan 6, 2021 at 10:13 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Nah, they're white.

Yeah, CNN management has put the word out, 'Trump Supporters' and 'Rioters' is in, 'Protestors' is out.

The law enforcement does seem to have been remarkably easily overwhelmed, can't help suspecting there'd be rather more police knees available for necks if this had been BLM....

Jan 6, 2021 at 11:21 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

archive.org AKA The Wayback Machine is having a fit this evening (it was certainly not working on bbc.co.uk for the last 2 hours - showing nothing for 2021) Google search was nearly devoid of links to reportage and full of predictable reaction.

Jan 6, 2021 at 11:25 PM | Registered Commentertomo

yah reckon Phil? - have you been watching any CNN? - the police really didn't seem to offer much resistance...

It's escalating ....

Congresswoman Cori Bush (D, Mo) :

I believe the Republican members of Congress who have incited this domestic terror attack through their attempts to overturn the election must face consequences. They have broken their sacred Oath of Office.

I will be introducing a resolution calling for their expulsion.

- like that's going to end well eh? - sounds awfully like going for a one party state before the inauguration?

Jan 6, 2021 at 11:36 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Yeah, One of these things is not like the other

Yes, Twitter has finally started removing TrumpTweets, but you can still find them.

These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long, Go home with love & peace. Remember this day forever!

These are the things and events that happen when you feed your supporters endless lies to engender false hope, protect your fragile ego and raise $billions. You lost, and not by just a little.

This election actually was not unusually close. Just in recent history, 1976, 2000 and 2004 were all closer than this one. The electoral college margin is almost identical to what it was in 2016. If this election were overturned by mere allegations from the losing side, our democracy would enter a death spiral. We’d never see the whole nation accept an election again. Every four years would be a scramble for power at any cost. The electoral college, which most of us on this side have been defending for years, would cease to exist, leaving many of our states with no real say at all in choosing a president. The effects would go even beyond the elections themselves.

- Mitch McConnell.

The woman who was shot inside the Capitol has now been pronounced dead.

Jan 6, 2021 at 11:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Trump's tweets are now being deleted....

The BBC are calling the Democratic Georgia senate race win "improbable" !

The unarmed woman who was shot inside the Capitol has now been pronounced dead. - there. fify.

I see that the BBC are calling the Trump mob as violent and armed .... If I recall correctly carrying a firearm in DC today is a Federal felony ?

Jan 7, 2021 at 12:00 AM | Registered Commentertomo

.... and his account locked

Jan 7, 2021 at 12:14 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Ooops

https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1346970430062485505

Jan 7, 2021 at 12:16 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

I see the BBC have removed the "armed" fakery from their headline.

No oops about Twitter's actual position - that Zoom chat with @jack cleared that up.

I see @Barnes_Law is reporting from Washington - after Twitter blinked :-)

Jan 7, 2021 at 12:48 AM | Registered Commentertomo