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Mark
Don't bother complaining to T&P...
I was so ticked by the "Skeptics are insane deniers" training course that was being run and the group behind it I had a fair old dig around.
Bonkers ... simply bonkers - I think a senior clinician must have read some people the riot act - as much (all) of the content online disappeared...
The diversity coordinators (several I'd wager - of diverse backgrounds) likely pleasure themselves repeatedly with nuance-ing any public content.
DJT has very obviously been listening to Rand Paul - the spooks aren't going to be happy about it...
What "the world" thinks of DJT - according to the BBC.
The presumption of the news minions at the UK's state broadcaster is limitless.
So, we should disregard Wolff because he makes some stuff up? Oh, the irony.
Reason I canceled my trip to London is that I am not a big fan of the Obama Administration having sold perhaps the best located and finest embassy in London for “peanuts,” only to build a new one in an off location for 1.2 billion dollars. Bad deal. Wanted me to cut ribbon-NO!
Of course the decision to move the embassy dates to the Bush Administration. Can this blockhead get nothing right?
What "the world" thinks of DJT -
Here's what one world leader thinks of Dishonest Don
.@realDonaldTrump, your mouth is the foulest shithole in the world. With what authority do you proclaim who’s welcome in America and who’s not. America’s greatness is built on diversity, or have you forgotten your immigrant background, Donald?
- Vicente Fox, former president of Mexico
https://twitter.com/VicenteFoxQue/status/951586161931235328
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_the_United_States,_London
PC TDS yet again
- Vicente Fox ?
Not very well versed in Mexican politics are you?
ignorant twat
Phil. Trump was not elected for his diplomatic abilities, nor for his turn of phrase (reminds me a bit of Nixon at his most noxious). BBC has a good piece on how foreign journalists have translated "shithole".
Dunnow whot tomo is on about: Fox was indeed the Mexican president for six years, but currently is under a cloud, suspected of diverting funds to renovate his ranch.
Jan 12, 2018 at 5:22 PM | Supertroll & tomo
Why is Phil Clarke highlighting the opinions of corruption?
"With the advent of the political party Pan, and the presidency of Vicente Fox (2000-2006) and Felipe Calderón (2006-2012), the criminal structure not only remained intact but strengthened through the growth of corruption. Year after year, Mexico continued to lose ground in Transparency International’s global corruption report."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/16/death-corruption-mexico-moment-mirage
Supertroll
Fox isn't a world leader he's a notorious windbag ex president of Mexico (and head of Coca-Cola Mexico...) who routinely spouts total trash and his windbaggery and cowardice suffused antics in the media sphere are well recorded. (He gets a thumbs-up from me though for getting himself banned from Corbyn's Maduro's Venezuela)
I understand that all migrants to Mexico are blocked from citizenship and are at a serious disadvantage in the bureaucracy and legal systems there. Native Mexicans have been buried at the bottom of the political structure in their own country for five centuries.
Migrants from further south (and peasants from S. Mexico) are pushed up to the US border - as it suits the descendants of the conquistadors who rule Mexico. Champion of the downtrodden ...? - I think not.
Ah! tomo so you weren't disputing the designation of Fox as a (former) world leader (president of Mexico). His opposition to Trump probably explains your antipathy.
Supertroll - nah... not really - he's as much of an actual "world leader" as Robert Mugabe. There's better, more accurate banter from plenty of other Trump opponents - it's just that the TDS visceral hatey name calling thing seems to predominate with folk like PC.
On the US Embassy front - I did like this anecdote:
The Duke of Westminster was once asked by the US Government if he'd sell the freehold of the land on which its London embassy sits. He offered to swap it for his family's land in the US that had been seized post-independence. Essentially, Florida.
visceral hatey name calling thing
Shithole?
LOL.
visceral hatey name calling thing
"ignorant twat"
LOL
visceral hatey name calling thing
Crooked Hillary
LOL
visceral hatey name calling thing
"Although we have a representative in Congress who they say was here a long time ago. They call her Pocahontas"
And so on, and so forth. Pot, meet kettle.
Haiti is heaven on earth, The Clintons & Co. acted scrupulously honestly in all respects regarding improving that already near perfect Caribbean nation after the earthquake and Elizabeth Warren is a Native American.
DJT uses different words ....
I am the pot and the kettle and you chum, are still an ignorant twat.
I think Tom Hanks will be reading this as he prepares for "Forrest Gump at The White House" - although I have to say that DJT's language is no weirder than Dubya Bush - just differnt
America first = America alone
Project well underway
Putin delighted.
When Christopher Columbus arrived in 1492, he named the land La Isla Española. It served as a Spanish colony and base for the empire's further conquests, though it was never particularly profitable. In 1697 the Spanish formally ceded the western third of the island to the French, who were already present and more heavily invested. The Hispaniolan outposts of both empires imported African slaves, though the latter did so to a much greater extent. The colonies — Santo Domingo and Saint-Domingue, respectively — subsequently developed vastly different demographics. According to a study by the American Library of Congress, by the end of the 18th century, there were about 40,000 white landowners, 25,000 black or interracial freedmen and 60,000 slaves in the Spanish colony, compared with approximately 30,000 whites, 27,000 freedmen, and at least 500,000 black slaves in its French counterpart.
As revolution raged in France in the 1790s, its colonial slaves in Hispaniola revolted; in 1804, they declared independence, and Haiti, which was named after the Taino word for "land of mountains," became the world's first sovereign black republic. The Dominican Republic wasn't established until 1844, after not just European rule but also 22 years of Haitian occupation. Strife between (as well as within) the neighbors, rooted in deep class, racial and cultural differences, was constant. Interference by foreign powers was often the norm. The Spanish took back the Dominican Republic in the early 1860s, and for periods during the 20th century, the U.S. occupied both nations, supposedly to restore order but also, in the face of European threats, to assert its influence in the western hemisphere. Internal politics were characterized by multiple coups, revolts and dictators, the most infamous being Rafael Trujillo in the Dominican Republic and François and Jean-Claude Duvalier in Haiti. Juan Bosch, the first democratically elected President of the Dominican Republic in 1962, was almost immediately overthrown after taking office in 1963. Jean-Bertrand Aristide became the first freely elected President of Haiti, in 1990; he was ousted as well, returned and was ousted again.
But while both countries struggled with democracy, economically they began to diverge. Haiti had long been exploited, by foreign powers, neighbors and its own rulers. France not only milked Haiti for coffee and sugar production but also extracted an indemnity from it: the young nation had to pay a burdensome sum to its former colonizer in order to achieve France's diplomatic recognition. The lighter-skinned Dominicans looked down on the darker-skinned Haitians: in 1965, even as the Dominican Republic was embroiled in civil war, Haitians were working in Dominican fields and not the other way around. And while Trujillo at least encouraged economic development in his country, Duvalier père et fils essentially sold their people as cheap sugar-cane cutters to the Dominican Republic.
Today, with a lack of resources and a much higher population density than its neighbor, Haiti is the poorest country in the western hemisphere. The U.N. has sent peacekeeping missions to maintain order there since the mid-1990s, but terrible conditions persist. Haiti's dismal statistics have a long history; no devil is necessary.
copied from here - when they actually practiced responsible journalism.
Some countries can indeed be considered by us in the wealthy west as shitholes. Yet diplomacy requires our leaders to keep quiet and treat them with some dignity.
Dignity can exist even in a shithole.
Shitholes exist within even the wealthiest countries.
Trump is no statesman, nor diplomat. He wears blinkers (and a noseplug).
tomo.
"he's as much of an actual "world leader" as Robert Mugabe."
You don't know much about African politics do you?
Mugabe was held in the highest regard in the whole of southern Africa, explaining his remarkable persistence as a leader. It also explains why, since his downfall, he has not been indicted.
I don't think Fox was in the same league as Mugabe.
"Yet diplomacy requires our leaders to keep quiet and treat them with some dignity." - pfff....
You don't know much about African politics do you?
Mugabe was held in the highest regard in the whole of southern Africa, explaining his remarkable persistence as a leader. It also explains why, since his downfall, he has not been indicted.
I don't think Fox was in the same league as Mugabe.
I thought his persistence as leader came from stealing things to pay the thugs that murdered anybody who represented any challenge. No doubt Nicholas van Hoogstraten (He has been a close associate of Robert Mugabe, whom he describes as "100 per cent decent and incorruptible";) will shed a tear when the nasty old git Mugabe finally shuffles off the mortal coil.
I certainly would never deny dignity can't exist in a shithole - lordy - I have lived and worked in enough of them. There are refugee camps and frightful shitholes in the continental USA that are utterly shameful and largely ignored by the pols in both the major parties.
tomo
Next to the words "The Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust - Committed to improving mental health and wellbeing" the website has a large and completely gratuitous picture of what appears to be a Muslim lady of colour.
The clear implication is that people like her - Muslims, women, people of colour - have mental health issues. Where do I complain?