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"He has spoken at the Vatican"
I heard the Pope speak at the Vatican. Well I think he was speaking, he was quite high up leaning out of a window.
Martyn
Martyn, I have spoken at the Vatican. The Guards don't like it if you exclaim anything too loudly about a sore neck, when in the Sistine Chapel.
golf charlie
GC, I too have spoke at the Vatican, with some emotion, but they appeared not to hear. Given the distance to Rome, I probably shouldn't be surprised.
Going the other way, though severely off tangent, when the thiol-factory near Rouen had a gas leak, I could still smell it as far north as Northamptonshire. It was widely reported in Kent and Southern England but, having often worked with such chemicals, I recognised it outside at the time before it was reported in the news. Astonishing that the human nose can detect such things at such distance in the atmospheric circulation.
...A wholly irrelevant story maybe, but there isn't that much to keep us going at BH these days. Maybe Andrew should petition his associates at the GWPF to fund some articles here. It is a shame to see what Andrew Montford built languishing when it still has such a well-wishing audience.
michael hart
michael hart, I don't claim to understand the human biology, but once you know what a smell is, it is easier to detect and identify at far lower concentrations. Keen gardeners can pick out particular blossom smells, cooks and bakers do it without opening an oven door, dogs can be trained to show interest in particular smells, medics and firefighters can diagnose etc.
I know certain smells through work etc, some foul, and some pleasant, which others may have detected, without attaching any significance to, even though some will have noticed a "funny smell".
golf charlie
so....
this guy Dick Durbin telephones his mate who then launches into a fit of spluttering histrionics ....
Senator Cory Booker - who's busying himself trying to knacker *any* deal on immigration concessions - what an absolute pair of gits...
tomo
This first Trump Administration NSS identifies four vital national interests. Two of them – “promoting American prosperity” and “advancing American influence” – require that the United States “take advantage of our wealth in domestic resources.” However, America is no longer taking full advantage of one of its most important of its domestic resources: its vast coal reserves, the largest of any nation on Earth.
Testifying November 28 in Charleston, West Virginia, at the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) public hearing on repealing the Clean Power Plan, Robert E. Murray, president and CEO of Murray Energy Corp., summarized the bleak state of affairs.
“Prior to the election of President Obama,” Murray noted, “52% of America’s electricity was generated from coal, and this rate was much higher in the Midwest. That percentage of coal generation declined under the Obama Administration to 30%. Under the Obama Administration, and its so-called Clean Power Plan, over 400 coal-fired generating plants totaling over 100,000 megawatts of capacity were closed, with no proven environmental benefit whatsoever.”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/01/16/frigid-cold-is-why-we-need-dependable-energy/
golf charlie
Worth repeating stewgreen's link from unthreaded
GOP List of Fake News from 2017 - I'd wager Arrianna Stasinopoúlou / Huffington Post is 'fewmin at being ignored :-).
As stewgreen comments - the list is US only - maybe there will be an additional category for foreign broadcasters and newspapers.
tomo
Guess they had the greatest of fun compiling that list.
Wonder what measure they use to rank stories - a Nixon scale perhaps?.
Could the media retaliate and produce a list of Trump's greatest lies?
Oh, double the fun.
Supertroll
Oh, double the fun.
Jan 18, 2018 at 2:06 PM | Supertroll
To double the fun, and provide years of entertainment with highs, lows, rolling averages and swirling beverages, a Clinton Scale might be more appropriate
golf charlie
Supertroll
The Oscar Fingal O'Flahertie Wills Wilde quote about fox hunting could do with a re-treading - who's the hunter and who's the fox though?
No doubt the hysterical dimwits at CNN will rise to the bait though.
In terms of fibs though I still cling rather unfashionably to Obamah's birth certificate - which I incredulously downloaded a copy of - direct from whitehouse.gov when they first put it up there all those years ago..... :-) - and I'm still left with a dangling why did they do that?
tomo
Another entry on the list took on The Washington Post, claiming that it had “FALSELY reported the President’s massive sold-out rally in Pensacola, Florida was empty. Dishonest reporter showed picture of empty arena HOURS before crowd started pouring in.”The reporter in question was David Weigel, who had posted the photo in question on his Twitter account before quickly deleting it. The Post itself did not publish the photo or a report on the size of the crowd at the Trump event. The “Fake News Awards” entry, however, conflated a reporter’s tweetwith the publication itself. It also omitted the fact that Mr. Weigel deleted his tweet and apologized for it when it was pointed out to him that it was misleading.
Further, it did not mention that Mr. Trump had called for Mr. Weigel to be fired over the tweet. (He was not.)
So it was not the Post, it was a (soon-deleted and apologised-for) personal tweet. Even Trump's fake news contains lies. My irony meter is broken..
The Trump Lies List has been done, of course. 5 a day, on average.
fun quiz .
Phil Clarke
Here's a fun quiz
Phil Clarke
In terms of fibs though I still cling rather unfashionably to Obamah's birth certificate - which I incredulously downloaded a copy of - direct from whitehouse.gov when they first put it up there all those years ago..... :-) - and I'm still left with a dangling why did they do that?
Um, because a group of people, Dishonest Don included, was claiming he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii?
Worth revisting the lies told by the liar-in-chief on this one … https://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/donald-youre-fired/
He doesn't get one single thing right.
Phil Clarke
Phil Clarke
note - I personally make absolutely no call on where Obamah was born - at all - unlike some in Obamah's employ in pre-POTUS days.
All I know is that I was astonished at what I thought was a single scan turned out to be a multilayer document littered with inept image editing mistakes - beyond the obvious one of not flattening (combining) the layers. At the time I thought that it was an elaborate spoof with misdirection on all sorts of levels and I went as far as downloading the file from the OS command line using a validated IP address for whitehouse.gov.
IDGAF where he was born
tomo
Jan 18, 2018 at 3:36 PM | Phil Clarke
Why don't you expose the lies of Mann and his loyal followers of nonscience?
golf charlie
Gwen. I think you should perhaps urge Phil to expose himself (climate wise) on some venue other than that reserved for the "fun" of discussing our stable genius. Don't give you much chance, however.
Supertroll
It might be clickbait ... but two Moslem majority countries have the highest Trump approval ratings...
tomo
"Only 30 per cent of the world, on average, approves of the job performance of the US’s leadership, down from 48 per cent in 2016. In fact, more people now disapprove of US leadership than approve.”
Phil Clarke
Last US survey that I saw showed the Trump approval rating was almost the same as Obamas at his point of first term
"Thursday, January 18, 2018
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove.
The latest figures include 28% who Strongly Approve of the way the president is performing "
Previous
"The president pointed to a poll by Rasmussen Reports, released Thursday, which found his approval rating to be 46 per cent and disapproval rating at 53 per cent. On the same day (Dec. 28) during Obama’s first year as president, a Rasmussen poll found his approval rating was 47 per cent and disapproval was 52 per cent."
stewgreen
"A 1991 literary promotional booklet identified Barack Obama as having been born in Kenya."
Rated True even by the Loony liberal site Snopes
.. It was mentioned that Obama played games trying to get advantage from even claiming to be Kenyan.
Sounds plausible bu I don't know.
Now Trump did rhetorically say
"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the Birther controversy."
loosing meaning some of her supporters raised up the issue rather than actually her herself created the issue
and Breitbart has some background
"Patti Solis Doyle, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager in 2008 until the Iowa caucuses, admitted on Friday that a Clinton campaign STAFFER had, in fact, circulated the Birther conspiracy theory that Barack Obama was born outside the U.S. and therefore potentially ineligible to serve in the presidency.
Doyle made the admission on Twitter"
Breitbart claims further that the Clinton campaign did kick around the idea
\\The Clinton campaign discussed targeting Obama’s “lack of American roots,” which led to campaign staff circulating a photo of Obama in Muslim garb. (The Obama campaign was not above such tactics, with a campaign memo referring to Clinton as “(D-Punjab),” due to her family’s financial links to India.)
Later, Clinton supporters (though not the candidate or campaign, according to available information) began circulating the rumor that Barack Obama was born abroad. One, Philip J. Burg, filed one of the more notable lawsuits challenging Obama’s Democratic Party nomination (dismissed for lack of standing).//
stewgreen
Old fake news
Supertroll
Get the popcorn. Mr Wolff has sold television rights to Fire and Fury for seven figures. Looks like Channel 4 will carry out the deed, so put away your anti BBC posters.
Supertroll
Steve Rubin - the F&F publisher's primary claim to fame is that he was the guy who hyped up Dan Brown and was essentially pushed out of Doubleday recently for underachieving. The only connection to Channel 4 is Michael Jackson (C4 boss 1997-2001) is playing second fiddle to Woolf himself .....
The buyer of the film + TV rights is "Endeavor Content" is purportedly- according to the breathless exclusive at Hollywood Reporter - a hybrid of William Morris Endeavor and IMG - which is odd as WME is owned by IMG - the video report that accompanies the Hollywood Reporter "exclusive" is delivered by a helium voiced airhead who can barely read the teleprompter and deliver the lamely worded corporate PR statement.
Anyhow ... looks like a bit of a motley crew - I'm guessing that there is a crowd of liberal media bigwigs who're determined to damage DJT and I daresay that they will not want for funding.
They're going to have to keep an eye on South Park though as this already has some of the ingredients of a farce - any way it goes though I think it's clear that the main winners will be lawyers.
but yeah.... popcorn
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tomo
LOL. Cherry-pick the most favourable poll (Five-Thirty-Eight rates Rasmusssen at just C+) on the most favourable day and Obama is still ahead.
Truth is, Dishonest Don is the most unpopular president on record and the US's standing in the world is plummeting.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-least-popular-president-ever-even-approval-rating-rises-669483
Phil Clarke
Supertroll, apologies! I typed it, changed it, and did not delete everything wot I shouldov dun