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Corbyn's statement refusing to resign after losing the confidence vote by 172 to 40 is jaw-dropping. It includes
"The Government is in disarray" and
"we need to stand together" and
"Our people need Labour party members, trade unionists and MPs to unite behind my leadership".
Big Gamb-oil. Will those £3-per-head rent-a-members still tick his box? If so, what? Corbyn & Diane Abbott sitting in an empty room chatting about the 1970s whilst a re-named party fires up next door?
No dignity, some people.
Paul Matthews, but he has the support of Momentum, the UK's Unite band of Militants performing in Unison, so in a fresh election, he will win again! This is another beautiful example of the abuse of Democracy, by those with selfish interests.
Ironically, Corbyn was not much of a fan of the EU.
The EU is bringing civil war to the Labour Party, and to hell with the rest of Europe.
He should stand firm so as to expose the Blairites.
(lets see those bastards running without social clothes, all that will remain is emotional responses from weak willed parliamentary types who get pushed in front of the microphone so as to add a bit of false humanity to their god awful Dorian Grey portrait.)
A split in both the Labour and Tory party is needed.
Its all quite wonderful really.
As one labour wag observed today, dictators don't need a majority. The countdown to its schism began this afterrnoon.
Political parties can die.
Pointman
Just a dumb Irishman listening to your circus but there was some female labour member of Parliament crying her heart out in Radio 4 land yesterday. ( her name escapes me)
Either she is a emotional wreck and unfit for duty or was cynically hitting the emotion red button so as to gain the female vote.
New Labour is expert at all that jazz.
Paul Waugh reminds us (& Corbyn)
"A reminder of the problem facing Corbyn. Just 40 MPs backed him today. But he has to fill 110 shadow posts (57 juniors, 29 ShadCab, 20 PPSs)"
Apparently Rosie Winterton gave him a bottle of vodka and a loaded gun along with the vote results, but the useless twat only managed to shoot himself in the foot (again).
Josh: good to see you on a roll.
I view Corbyn in much the same way as Wolfie in citizen smith. He is incapable of leadership and is listened to only by a tiny bunch of people living in their 1970's bubble.
However, as I understand it, the party leader is voted in by the party membership who all joined after militants departure and voted overwhelmingly for Jeremy. So by what right( other than common sense and self preservation) do the MP's have to try to remove him. Constitutionally, it all sounds rather iffy.
NOTE
My iPad changed Miliband to militant but I thought I would leave it as it seemed rather appropriate. A Trotskyist iPad. Whatever next?
Tonyb
Corbyn should have stuck to his principles and backed Brexit - God only knows who/what got him to change to the Remain side.
As it is, Corbyn's stance has pushed many traditional Labour supporters to UKIP's camp and along with Tory reticence to complete the Brexit process many Tory voters may similarly be pushed to UKIP.
No wonder Boris is already speculating that there won't be a snap election to build on the disarray within Labour - UKIP would do rather well under the circumstances.
DaveG, the Labour Party needs to blame someone for Brexit, now it is clear that traditional Labour voters voted Brexit.
Killing two scapegoats with one full load of dirty washing seems to be the clear message from Labour. Once Corbyn is hung out to dry, Momentumpties will start putting it all back together again.
Dammit, Piers predicted a favourable outlook today. Tomorrow will be fine, he said.
What's to stop ANYBODY other than a crazy lefty obviously from buying a £3 Labour Membership and voting Corbyn out in the new Leadershipship election
Financial Possibilities are endless.Take a lesson from Simon Cowell XFactor BGT style Premium Rate Phone Number Political Party Leadership and Policy Voting.Solve the dire financial state of all political party funding.
Over thirty million votes cast ,Imagine the money the government could have made if the Brexit Referendum had been a Phone Vote maybe hosted by Ant and Dec .Then have another vote to decide wether to have another vote if one side dont like the result.
Politics for the pre dumbed down generations.
Peter Shore vs the Treaty of Rome, Margaret Thatcher and Ted Heath. Oxford Union debate, 1975.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j-Gb8Pk2Pk
Full video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5ks5tmNwCY&sns=tw
Jamspid, don't give Politicians ideas. Besides, Ant and Dec may be too sensible now, for silly gameshows aimed at childlike mentalities
Dammit big brother, didn't you predict a fine day?
Labour's acupuncture points appear to be all in the back.
Amusing blog here
https://supportourjeremy.wordpress.com/
with articles like
"Jeremy’s Decisive 40-Vote Triumph Should Be Respected, Friends!"
and one on the call for a 2nd referendum.
It cannot be long now before somebody hands Seumas Milne a knuckle sandwich?
Maybe one of the feistier ladies will oblige?
Paul Matthews, Corbyn has found the secret of financial success for the Labour Party.
Every year, hundreds of thousands of people will join the Labour Party and pay a subscription to support him. Other factions will try to outmatch the new subscriptions, to put both new and old bums on ballot papers, as Corbyn knows his Momentum will carry him forward, left foot first.
This is money from old and young dopes.
Paul Matthews, thanks for the link to the Corbyn spoof site. Such fun!
I'm tempted to invest three quid in Labour Party membership which would enable me to propose Corbyn for leader AGAIN.....
What larks, me hearties.....!
sherlock1, that is the spirit of modern democracy.
It seems that Corbyn's Momentum is threatening harm to Labour MPs and constituency Party faithful, if they don't support their Stalinist approach to those opposing their particular Consensus view.
If it goes back to the £3 members, I'll sign up this time! Add to the thousands of 'Kippers & Tories would helped get him in last time!
Best bit of theatre we've had in years.
As for his Shadow Cabinet, 48 hours between promotion & resignation must be a world record.
Worth voting Leave just to witness this charade.
Our democracy works, and works well, by virtue of having two strong, opposing political parties. If you deliberately damage one of them by exploiting Labour's admittedly stupid registration system, and vote for a disastrous leader who will tie his parliamentary party into knots, you may irretrievably damage the opposition. Yes you might ensure Tory governments for decades as a result, but they will be governments without effective opposition. Then where will be be your precious democracy, your democracy you claim you have saved from the clutches of the EU.
So it might be "such larks" but, in reality its much more serious.
@Alan agree in principle ...but it worked
..Remains dirty tricks like Project Fear first skewed the vote
but then Corbyn's Project Apathy ensured Brexit won.
Stewgreen. Don't believe Jeremy was apathetic - far from it. But his nuanced approach, coupled by a near total lack of charisma, was exactly the opposite to what was required. That is why he is in deep merde now. He has been a disaster for the Labour party, for effective opposition, and unless he is surgically removed fast will damage democracy here. Attempts to keep him in place by mischievous pranks interfering with Labour's selection of a leader will be totally counterproductive. However, I have no doubt that it will occur and by people claiming a Leave vote was one for the democratic process. Cela vie.
Alan Kendall & stewgreen, entirely agree but ...
Today I was watching daytime TV news and political mudslinging. Emily Thornberry was defending Corbyn's right to carry on, because he was Democratically elected and had the overwhelming support of the Labour rank and file membership. She is a Lawyer, and married to a Judge, so ought to have a good grasp of fairness, justice and equality.
That level of arrogant self-interest is what the EU has thrived on for years. Thankfully there is unlikely to be a position for her in the Shadow Cabinet for much longer. Thankfully the EU will not be employing any more UK political disasters.
Corbyn is waiting until next week for the Chilcott Report and his chance to lay into Blair for Iraq and then he's off to compete for the Leadership.
Ha I did mention yesterday that I sensed Alistair Campbell seemed to be behind this counter revolution, wonder if it something to do with defending the old Blair-time government (which is more than just one man).
Jeremy (Caesar) Corbyn is hanging on, hoping to be saved by the entry of Rosencrantz and Gildenstern , but is in the wrong play.
Unite supported staying in the EU. And as we all know Unite was instrumental in selecting Corbo.
Anyway, Im sure the Conservatives really don't want him to leave as he is their best advertisement for NOT voting Labour.
Mailman
Bumbling devisive devious Boris has just stood aside . Thanks Mrs Gove
Three horse race Gove Theresa May and my man Liam Fox.
We need a proper Brexiteer outside favourite Liam Fox .
Whatever happened to 'tackling climate change'..?
Seems to have completely fallen off the political radar..!
Maybe - just maybe - its not the 'single biggest risk to mankind' after all......
By the way - as the lone 'Brexiteer' in my family (not been popular, believe me) - I'm glad Boris isn't running....
"his nuanced approach": hee, hee, hee.
Jolly sporting of Boris to divert attention away from Corbyn for a few hours, so he can make a better job, of telling everybody he is the only person capable of being elected to do the job he hasn't been doing very well already.
Interesting that Ed Miliband thought anything he said would make a difference. Of course now he can claim that if HE had been elected Prime Minister, none of this would have happened.
dearime. It's good to see that appreciation of irony is not lost, but it's not good form to reveal that you understand it so openly.
Could Corbyn start renting out space in the Shadow Cabinet, by the day or even hour?
It would be really good for the CVs of those arriving to clean blood out of the carpet, if they left, being able to add Shadow Home Secretary AND Shadow Foreign Secretary to their work experience.
But David Miliband, where he?
I share your predicament, Sherlock1. I am constantly being told that “We should have left it to the experts.” When I ask which experts – the ones who predicted gloom or those who predicted glorious opportunity – it seems that doom and gloom beats optimism every time.
What has fascinated me more is the financial rumblings happening in the ECB. They are extending their debt purchases to a wider net but the EU has even downgraded to AA.
All being blamed on Brexit but yet the zero or negative interest rates have been here for a few months. I've heard commentators even say give it a few months and the pound will rise more than the Euro as people will really start piling onto the Euro uncertainty.
Plus Deutsche Bank was declared the biggest threat to global stability by the IMF. Oddly the predicted contagion of a bank collapse didn't reach Barclays or RBS. I think we need to start extracting ourselves from EU financial regulations and commitments soon. Bad things on the way due to this sovereign debt crisis.
And that's not even factoring in China's debt bubble.
I see where Blair is effectively putting his hand up to be the lead Brexit negotiator. He has " no shame." Says it will require statesmanship and a Leave leader shouldn't necessarily be involved.
Translation " I can see a grossly over paid job which I should able to stretch for 5-10 years"
Ross. Is there evidence for this? Or did you just wake in a cold sweat?
Alan K, the torygraph is reporting that Blair hints at role as Brexit negotiator.
But it seems to me that the headline is reading between the lines of what Blair said in his article.
I liked this bit: "Many of the 48 per cent will feel completely disenfranchised". Get yourself a dictionary Tony.
Paul Matthews. You are, of course, perfectly correct, the 48% did not lose the right to vote. He was probably using in the wider sense that the word is now commonly employed to mean that their vote meant nothing, that is was wasted. But as a lawyer and one used to using words precisely, he should have known much better.
Thank you for the info, I only get to read the Torygraph on Saturdays because the better half prefers their crosswords.
"the British people have a right to carry on being part of the debate, to consider the facts which will now take the place of the claims and counterclaims, and to discuss the options which will be put before us. Actually the people do have a right to change their mind, but that is not for now."
So says the man who promised and then denied the British people a say on the Lisbon 'not-really-a-constitution' Treaty. Shameless. And as a negotiator? The man who 'negotiated' away a big chunk of our rebate for sweet FA?? The headline writer should go and lie down in a dark room.
Chilcot is supposed to publish on 6 July. Difficult to see how Blair can possibly survive that if the talk around its content is correct
Tonyb
Friends! I am indebted to Friend Paul Matthews for his kind mention of my Blog, which is the only Blog in the entire world, and indeed elsewhere, which is totally dedicated to 100% support - and that's the absolute minimum! - of Our Jeremy.
Jeremy is going nowhere, friends, and I shall follow him every step of the way. My latest Blog post, titled - perrhaps not entirely surprisingly - "Jeremy Is Going Nowhere, Friends!" is now available. Hope you enjoy it, friends.
PS: Apologies, I forgot to put in the link. Here it is, friends:
https://supportourjeremy.wordpress.com/2016/06/29/jeremy-is-going-nowhere-friends/