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You do realise you immediately lose two thirds of coal energy upon transformation?
You do realize you lose 99% when you transform electrical energy to laser light? But who cares, I am getting what I want.
Dork. What a load of cr@p you do sometimes come up with. This latest effort of yours beats most for clear ineptitude. "No industry can survive without recovering their costs". Ever hear of state industries or subsidies? Zombie companies perhaps? Come back when you've learnt some proper economics.
Social creditors propose the compensated price and national dividend rather then specific socialistic or corporatist subsidy.
But in a system with a divide between prices and income you always see socialism of one kind or another as it is merely another name for capitalist / usury management
We can argue that the authorities have now officially given up on socialist / capitalist management in border zones such as the Ukraine as they have no national income of any sort other then hookers and remittances.
We can also observe the border zones or peripheral area keeps getting bigger and have indeed become ever more void of activities , do you somehow absurdly disagree with this correct observation? , and if so explain why.
Areas such as the Ukraine effectively have no national income of any sort.
( when I say this I mean these areas do not produce national income tokens for local consumption)
Which means you cannot have industry servicing the absence of demand.
Ever since the collapse of the Soviet war economy we have seen a progressive contraction of Ukrainian industry.
But it has nothing to do with geological matters.
These are simple statements but I am afraid they must be repeated to persons of your calibre.
To understand our world one must first operate on correct principles.
I operate under the principal of the national income token egg coming first and not the physical economy chicken but you cannot of course have one without the other.
I guess I am a chartalist in that narrow sense.
ACk
There will come a point when you freeze to death.
But hey if you are happy with your consumer toy....
Dork. Re your. 8.06. Don't think so sunshine. I have electric and gas heating and if both fail I have an emergency calor gas heater. Failing all else I'll burn furniture. My neighbour has a wood stove, and we have woods nearby. But why should I freeze to death?
What I mean is industrial and monetary policy is creating more and more rationing.
Your individual survival strategies is of no concern to me.
You may indeed be the fastest jockey on the track but that is not my point.
Try reading the works of Frederick Soddy and others, then get back to me.
Dork re your 8.03pm. I do not acknowledge your ability to speak with any authority on geological assessment of reserves, and your knowledge of Ukraine seems sadly deficient. Again suggest you desist from exposing your ignorance any further.
Dork. Read a recommended author and get back to you? Let me refer you to my 4.05pm posting.
You could have been a master climate apologist, your ability to ignore argument counter to your own is in their league.
Frederick Soddy I thought I recognized the name - the polymath who believed in a jewish conspiracy to control the world.
Me thinks you just goggled his name and responded to a word trigger programme in your head.
His books are available in free Pdf format if you care to enter the electronic bookstore.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UT_MFvKhBsE
Prophetic speech from what appears to be the only capable and balsy European political leader.
Once you understand the policy of plantation is one of the oldest of capitalistic tactics and deeply anti humanistic creating costs through multiple generations for perhaps many centuries then you can begin to understand current European slaving policy and it's frantic efforts to disrupt domestic and national life.
I am afraid it's too late.
Little will remain but a American style dead zone.
The destruction is complete.
Dork. re your 10.49pm. Actually no. I did vaguely recall his name from O-level physics that I learned from a lovely old jewish teacher who had aspirations to impart a more general knowlege to his unruly pupils. [ An example of wonderful education I was given at a grammar school by dedicated teachers, not all of whom had degrees - my physics teacher didn't.] It is true that I stoked that memory by consulting Wikipedia, but so what?
Re your 12:21am If it's "too late" why are you "banging on" conducting a wake?
People have now entered a process of mass bankruptcy and slavery partially as a result of European energy policy whose goal is to provide revenue to the connected combines.
The Shell gas field controversy in Ireland is a classic case.
Increased complexity in energy extraction results in increased costs which must be recovered if the company is to survive.
They must have a market for the gas.
Laws preventing or taxing the burning of coal and biomass provides a guaranteed market for these supercompanies.
This forced complexity of extraction subsequently results in reduced sociological complexity.
Imagine if the Donbass coal fields had the $ investment that little old deep sea Corrib has had?
Extraction of coal is a very simple and old technology which is why the money monopoly wants to shut it down.
Now the little corrib field must feed the refugees of eastern Europe, Africa and Asia.
So we see the concentration camp strategy very clearly now.
Burn the hinterland down, absorb the refugees into a urban dystopia and feed them expensive shit produced by the company.
Be it expensive gas or expensive and complicated " energy saving " appliances.
I suspect all produced by connected and linked supercompanies.
Dork. Absolute conspiracist balderdash. You are really out-performing yourself.
I do wish Bish were around to remove such tosh (and my attempts to refute). I don't think there is any adequate response to your fetish, other than excision with prejudice!
Absolutely amazing. I send a response to your latest inanity, only to find another already posted. In that you expose your total ignorance of underground coal extraction technology - old and simple? Really? Can you really be so ignorant? Seems so.
The truth hurts.
As of last year the total capital costs sunk into the tiny fractured deep sea gas field of Corrib was 3.6 billion euro.
The initial cost was figured to be 800 million. ( Source, Irish Examiner)
I have little doubt Shell will recover it's costs (using the state apparatus) as it is perhaps the ultimate connected company.
The field will not even produce current Irish demand (inflated by inward migration of economic and war refugees)
It's peak production is running on a very short timescale.
All efforts will be made to provide a market for the gas, including the further extension of the solid fuel prohibition.
This is the reality of the situation.
This is how it is done.
It's a textbook case.
A fusion of national and Euro law with international corporate interests.
Dork, You are so out of date. The big multinationals are like the last dinosaurs. They have declining incomes, declining reserves, are excluded from much of the more profitable reserves by NOCs, and were too unwieldy to participate in the shale boom. Shell invests more in exploration than the value of oil and gas it finds. When the majors falter there is a swarm of smaller independents willing to take up the slack. They are losing political power - do you think EssoMobil inthe past would have stood for the political shenanigans taking place in the USA today? Yet here you are implying that Shell is able to put in the "big fix" in Ireland. Absolute fantasy.
ACK.
The majors (just one arm of the money monopoly) revenue has declined simply because the host is near death.
Again they must control all aspects of state energy, monetary, migration policy so as to insure a cashflow.
I assure you this is a very structured top down implementation of the code.
Gas monopolists especially need to remove solid fuel and direct burn biomass compitition under the guise of green and health laws.
On a wider scale you cannot refute that we are importing people and societies that we are bombing.
It's a vast global demand management exercise.
A unprecedented in scale corporate socialism
You say Shell just invests in exploration
So what?
Once you can charge for it then that is all that matters.
These connected supercompanies have first digs on national income.
That is my core point.
What they do is almost irrelevant
Had enough, done my bit. Over to someone else, or Dork can wither on the vine.
What a contrast with the pleasure gained from conversing with the daughter of the Shun.
http://www.thejournal.ie/jet-fuel-pipeline-plan-called-crazy-2065062-Apr2015/
This plan is quite illuminating.
It takes a shielded of very high quality energy to fuel the Dublin wage slave market.
The most recent IEA stats show yet another 1kbd increase of Irish jet fuel inputs in April.
Now standing at a incredible 36 kbd.
Irish jet fuel inputs are coming to dominate the energy balance of the now extreme ration focused plantation.of Ireland.
It is becoming sickly perverse to watch the typical double coated green corporate heads wanting to further shrink the domestic economy to fuel further devastating globalisation.
As I have said a almost perfect physical economic indicator of usury is the increased % of transport inputs vs total energy inputs.
https://irelandafternama.wordpress.com/2016/07/15/why-does-dublin-city-have-21781-vacant-units/
The supposed epicentre of the Irish (artifical) housing shortage.
The reason for the shortage is of course the national rationing policy imposed by the globalists.
The energy must be directed into keeping open the euro slave market.
DoC
Can you please explain what you mean by.
As I have said a almost perfect physical economic indicator of usury is the increased % of transport inputs vs total energy inputs.
@Martin
I have always been fascinated by the waste on my island and it's conjunction with shortage.
Noticed it from a early age infact. ( growing up in the first Irish early to mid 1980s euro depression followed by a late 80s / early 90s credit boom helped)
Perhaps I am a idiot savant but the data is very very conclusive.
Especially post Masstricht the dysfunction became extreme.
You can plot the gap in prices vs income and the transport total final consumption as a % of total.Tfc and get a very concrete correlation
During the 2007 to 2010 bust as prices got closer to income again Irish transport inputs totally collapsed.
The Dublin London short haul route (one of the busiest if not thee busiest in the world) experienced the biggest collapse of traffic ever seen.
The Imf / ECB bailout in November 2010 gradually at first increased and restored the gap between prices and income.
The energy balance then became the most dysfunctional in the world again.
Ireland is a perfect petri dish for both observation and sadly experiment given its island location and relative simplicity.
http://danskofoods.com/ireland-milk-imports-from-northern-ireland-soar/
What's especially fascinating from my perspective is the transport of heavy and high throughput liquids over long distances.
This sort of strange practise has never before happened in world industrial history.
Cannot believe they are selling northern Irish milk in the Golden vale of all places.
They will eventually fly beer and milk into Cork airport so as to prove there is scarcity of oil to power local work.
The usury costs loaded on Ireland is gigantic, these drive up local costs.
The costs become unaffordable for the population.
They subsequently try to escape local prices by buying cheaper northern Irish milk or cheaper Spanish holidays.
However the oil is wasted on distribution rather then production / consumption creating a apparent scarcity of the stuff.
The waste is obvious.
What's fascinating to me is that people cannot see it
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X5XP409pxNg
If you can get Taffin, " a complex character" then you can understand the dynamics of the situation.
So funny - Hollywood meets 1980s depression Ireland.
A classic period piece and surprisingly accurate!!!!
Thanks DoC. Will try to find the book
DoC, your mommy should come and drag you away by your ear. You appear to have got it almost right when you admitted to being an idiot savant. Except for the savant part. ACK has been more than civil and patient. Go get your meds. You are way past needing a few shots.
Hunter
Do you dispute the Irish energy balance data?
Do you accept usury increases costs.
I have given you a extreme example.
That is the transport of milk from the North of Ireland to the south as residents cannot afford domestic consumption.
The Golden Vale is perhaps the most ideal area for producing milk yet residents cannot afford it's production ( inflated by usury costs)
So they seek import substitutes.
Irish accounts show a increase of Gdp and a increase of energy consumption yet the residents are forced to sustain extreme rationing.
Rationing is proof that the production / consumption system is not fulfilling it's purpose.
That is to service demand with the least effort ( which in the case of consumable liquids is least distance)
You can insult me until the cows come home but the data and my correct analysis is indisputable.
Oil is wasted in distribution
The global combines attempt to sell us extreme cost natural gas and complex expensive energy saving devices as a substitute.
We enter masse bankruptcy as a result of this dastardly inflation of life support.
Hunter. Thanks, but I really wasn't trying to be civil.
ACK
I detect a distinct smell of bovine excrement.
You are trying to project a nice guy image because you cannot argue against the data
The facts are devastating.
If we were facing a true energy crisis war production would have stopped.
However we are living inside the biggest usury crisis the world has ever seen ( and it has seen many)
Again Irish economic data shows the biggest gap between prices ( Gdp) and income ( net national income)
It also has the biggest ratio of distribution ( transport) energy inputs relative to total final consumption.
This is most certainly not a coincidence.
It's the key to the dysfunction of the economy pand society.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YoIJPwfsbqg
The horrible face of usury.
Forcing countries into a mercantile dead zone.
Global mercantalism or forced trade is breaking down.
Usury is always the cause of mercantalism and distorted trade.
The rationing required to force trade in this manner causes breakdown of civilisation as there is no surplus to consume.
Everything gets eaten by distribution costs.
DoC.
I should look closer to home for the source of the odour.
I am not a nice guy where charlatans are concerned.
Your "evidence" is fantasy or, if not, has been so twisted through your unique personal prism as to be unrecognizable. You have demonstated your ignorance of 1. Ukranian coalfields, 2. coalfield resources, 3. underground coalmine technology, and 4. the current lack of political strength of major oil multinationals. All of which you ignored when challanged. I detect a poser of the first magnitude.
Why don't you post on economics-dedicated sites? Afraid of being eaten alive? Or perhaps you have been banned as a crank.
ACk
Social credit views are generally not tolerated on economic websites as the creators of such sites are almost always bankers.
Think of both the Naked Capitalism and Francis Cuppola websites.
Both are women with heavy connections to the scarcity merchants.
Start mentioning some famous and bighting critics of the system and soon you disappear into a abyss albeit with the best of company.
Again you cannot be sure what works best when we are operating within such a extreme scarcity system.
I simply do not accept that there is a shortage of fuel given the purposeful waste of fuel to maintain prices.
Again we are witnessing not a energy policy but a price inflation policy, a financial policy.
If the energy system operates under the direction of financial interests then you must at the very least come to understand the nature of the financial / scarcity system.
It's the least you can do really.
I imagine the investment in the Donbass is a very tiny fraction of the " investment" in the British Isles.
We can be pretty sure of that.
DoC. But this does not explain why you inflict your peculiar views here, when it must be painfully obvious that you are unwelcome and that, when Bish returns, your posts are likely to be snipped. So much wasted effort!
Home is where they hafta take you when you show up. Pull up a chair. Have a cuppa. And speak softly 'cuz I need the sleep.
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Well, we do have trouble. Central banks now buying corporate bonds because negative interest rates and quantumacious easing ain't workin'. Please, make something up we can print money for and buy.
Puzzle me that, my kind Corkish pilgrim.
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Sadly almost all life today is wasted effort.
That's the very point I am making!!!!!
We live inside a wasted effort lab experiment.
What significance is there to yet another lab rat added to the machine?
You, me and Bish can all go spinning the giant wheel together...
The first step to avoiding wasted effort is to identify it at source.
To understand it deeply
If you can somehow grasp the malice behind our current economic and social structure then perhaps... you may die a unhappy selfaware rodent.
Kim
Well there is a half idle brewery not far from my door....
Try to avoid the typical financial embroidery, it's designed to distract from the simplicity of the system.
The economic system as defined by me and others is the production distribution and consumption system.....
that's it baby.
You read Francis Cuppola and the rest of them and they will take you on a merry dance into the world of economic complexity.
You see they start from a point of complexity and work themselves inward
Very few start from first principles.
It's very very unscientific.
It's unscientific because it is a con game.
In my opinion her current attack on economic modelling and it's needless complexity is entirely tactical.
It's designed to put a gloss on the chosen character of critic.
Minsky and his financial instability hypothesis of 1992.
As if 1992 was ancient reading or something.
William Dunning Mccloud explained much of the instability from a far deeper perspective albeit as a apologist and believer of the scarcity system 100 years ~ before Minsky.
Everything is a mask behind a mask behind a mask.....
I prolly oughta H/t Jim Grant for that 'make something up' above. Anyway, I'd been reading him. Quantumacious is my own, dontcha know.
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Surely Henry. Hmmm, Easter Ross proliferated throughout Scotland. I love that he named Gresham's Law thinking that Gresham was the first to snap to the concept.
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PlJL6HaMZEo
Me memory missing bits
Just Henry.
Comes up unavailable. Thanks for Henry.
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Thus far no action in Brooks's betting book re will Monckton scold the Bish for delegating web censorship to his cartoonist?
http://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2016/08/although-bishop-hill-has-gone-missing.html
Heh, I'm always content when Stevie Mac rests Climate Audit for awhile. I know he's up to something good.
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