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Dunno if you've noticed but Hunter Biden is not actually running for Prez.

Was Burisma paying Hunter Biden in an attempt to influence his father? Yes. Did Hunter deliver that influence? No. Biden did the opposite of what Burisma wanted.

The most important new claim in the email trove obtained by the Post is that “Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm.” Biden’s campaign says a review of Biden’s schedule from this time shows the meeting never occurred, and that the Post never even asked Biden about this allegation before printing it.

Now, what about the Delaware computer-shop origin story? The best thing you can say is that this account is not physically impossible, in that it does not violate any laws of nature or require any discontinuity in the space-time continuum. It is not, however, a very plausible account.

To begin with, if you were a computer-repair shop in Delaware, and you had a Biden-owned computer that you repaired but weren’t paid for, why would your first step be to reach out to Rudy Giuliani’s attorney? Why wouldn’t you go to the Bidens — who are fairly well known and easy to find in Delaware — to get paid? And why would the FBI even be allowed to investigate this computer without a search warrant?

Jonathan Chait provides the scepticism Tucker evidently lacks.

Oct 16, 2020 at 2:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Thank you Phil. I always thought the repaired computer story had a garum smell about it,

Oct 16, 2020 at 3:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK

Oct 16, 2020 at 2:47 PM Phil Clarke
Thank you Phil. I always thought the repaired computer story had a garum smell about it,

Oct 16, 2020 at 3:37 PM AK

Everything produced by Phil Clarke does.

Oct 16, 2020 at 6:55 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

It's good to be sceptical, but the computer repair shop owner has already been identified and, it seems, the FBI took posession of the laptop in December 2019. The owner admits to making a copy and supplying it to Giuliani's lawyer. Whether this was before or after the FBI getting it is not clear. Nevertheless, if the timing of FBI getting access is true, this raises serious questions about why they did not reveal it when Trump was being impeached. A lot more to come, I suspect.

Oct 16, 2020 at 7:01 PM | Unregistered CommenterJR

Jonathan Chait probably hangs out in the same bar as Keith Olbermann

As far as emails are concerned - I rather like this

Oct 16, 2020 at 7:24 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Hah. I had a bet with myself that Tomo's response would be ad hom

Oct 16, 2020 at 7:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Well, Jonathan seems to be rather voluble about his desire to see DJT criminally prosecuted and other TDS ramblings...

How is comparing Chait to Olberman an ad-hom when they clearly agree on so many, many things and ecpress themselves in such similar ways ??

Hunter probably forgot where he took the computer for repair - he seems a bit absent minded on occasion about where he leaves his crack pipe and semen.

I have worked with the dissolute progeny of high ranking and exceeding rich Americans (and other nationalities) - Hunter's MO is classic stuff.

Oct 16, 2020 at 7:50 PM | Registered Commentertomo

"... response would be ad hom"

Oct 16, 2020 at 7:37 PM Phil Clarke

You are the ad hom expert.

Oct 16, 2020 at 10:28 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Historical reports on Biden supporting Russian, Ukrainian and Chinese interests when paid to do so.

https://youtu.be/NT3trjSB7IM

https://youtu.be/nkKP0w0MD8w

Oct 16, 2020 at 11:06 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

It's a pattern, unable or unwilling to engage with the substance of the argument, smear the author. Many examples but really CBA.

Oct 16, 2020 at 11:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

https://twitter.com/CarolineRoseGiu/status/1311154236315508736

Oct 17, 2020 at 12:14 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

https://twitter.com/CarolineRoseGiu

"Director, actor, writer, and weirdo. LIBERAL, obviously, with commas and otherwise. she/her // IG"

Oct 17, 2020 at 12:31 AM | Unregistered Commenterclipe

About that laptop

Naomi [Biden] didn’t return a request for comment, but neither Hunter Biden’s lawyer nor Joe Biden’s campaign have disputed the validity of the trove of data that The Post obtained after being extracted from a MacBook Pro laptop. The owner of a Delaware computer-repair shop said the machine was dropped off in April 2019 but never retrieved.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/__trashed-7.php

Oct 17, 2020 at 12:37 AM | Unregistered Commenterclipe

"It's a pattern, unable or unwilling to engage with the substance of the argument, smear the author. Many examples but really CBA.

Oct 16, 2020 at 11:17 PM Phil Clarke"

Suggest you change your MO.

But you won't, because you are paid to do it. Climate Science needs a corrupted President of the US.

Oct 17, 2020 at 6:34 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Repeat

How is comparing Chait to Olberman an ad-hom when they clearly agree on so many, many things and express themselves in such similar ways ??

Peas in a pod.

Oct 17, 2020 at 9:40 AM | Registered Commentertomo

Describing someone you disagree with as deranged is (a) lame and (b) ad hominem.

Oct 17, 2020 at 9:59 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Clarky casts his lot in with Olbermann and Chait

Oct 17, 2020 at 10:17 AM | Registered Commentertomo

Joe won't wear his readers on the podium so ...

a solution

and "you ain't black"

Oct 17, 2020 at 10:48 AM | Registered Commentertomo

Hypocrisy runs deep in the Democrat swamp:

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/05/joe-biden-calls-man-damn-liar-076438

"NEW HAMPTON, Iowa — Joe Biden lashed out at an Iowa town hall Thursday after a man suggested the former vice president helped his son get a sweetheart deal in Ukraine and was “selling access” like President Donald Trump does.

The fiery exchange with the man, who only identified himself as a non-Republican Iowa farmer, ended with Biden challenging him to a contest of push-ups, running or an IQ test before he yelled at him."

*** By MARC CAPUTO 12/05/2019 01:45 PM ***

No sense of legal justice, morality human rights or honesty either. Typical Hockey Teamster.

Oct 17, 2020 at 10:53 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

The laptop story has several elements to it that are very dodgy but it doesn't necessarly mean the contents isn't legit. Was the laptop stolen and sent to the repair shop to get it ready for resale? Was it stolen deliberately to embarass Biden? Was the contents real (stolen online say) but the laptop it sat on a clone? What was supposedly wrong with the machine dropped off, software or hardware? Who dropped it off? I doubt that it was Biden's son but it might have been an unwitting employee or friend. You'd think that people would know that machines were vulnerable to nosy repair people but a lot of child porn viewers are caught that way. Unless a machine is specially cleaned, traces of deleted stuff remains. What would Biden's son do if he realised it had been stolen/sent to be repaired with all that stuff? Pretend it was fake?

As for the FBI, I'm not sure what the US rules are about searching people's laptops. They may be still waiting for a warrent. They may have an undercover investigation that has just been blown. Are the Russians or the Chinese involved? All I know is that if it was Trumps's son or daughter it would be run every 20 minutes on the left wing media.

Oct 17, 2020 at 11:55 AM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

The Post story trumpeted a "smoking-gun email" allegedly showing Hunter Biden had arranged for a meeting in 2015 between his father and an adviser to the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company. Hunter Biden was a member of the board.

A photo of the alleged email published by the Post shows it was written by Vadym Pozharskyi, the Burisma adviser, and reads, in part: "thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together." The Post presents this line as evidence that Pozharskyi met with Joe Biden, who was spearheading the Obama administration's policy toward Ukraine. If true, it could contradict Biden's assertions that he "never discussed" his son's foreign business interests with him.

But a spokesman for the Biden campaign said a review of Biden's schedule for the period in question showed no such meeting with Pozharskyi, and several of Biden's top advisers who worked closely with him on Ukraine policy have publicly said they've never heard of him. While they did not rule out the possibility that Biden and Pozharskyi interacted briefly on the sidelines of an event, they said a formal meeting did not happen.

"We have reviewed Joe Biden's official schedules from the time and no meeting, as alleged by the New York Post, ever took place," said Andrew Bates, a Biden campaign spokesman.

Useful roundup of what we know (and don't) about laptopgate, from CBS.

Apparently Computer Repair Guy is legally blind and the CCTV footage from the shop was wiped. I look forward to the usual BH 'scepticism' ;-)

Oct 17, 2020 at 1:26 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

I feel it's safe to invoke Mandy Rice-Davis's timeless quote?

TinyCO2

Given Hunter's prominence and his connections - I feel that the laptop would be a real prize for an assortment of actors. As I linked above about Shitty Shirly Porter's eventual entrapment - these people are historically arrogant enough not to encrypt their hard drive files and communications with something like a hardware token and partition their email between social and business.

I'd hazard a guess that the Trump family are very aware of the effectiveness and availability of IT privacy tools in general - given that they've had targets painted on them for the last 4+ years....

What would Biden's son do if he realised it had been stolen/sent to be repaired with all that stuff? Pretend it was fake? >>> well he obviously didn't give a fig about securing it, likely figuring that daddy would pull strings to make any unpleasantness go away if it happened ... - seen much similar elsewhere.

The proffered reason for going public with the cloned hard drive contents is that the FBI didn't follow up on the laptop contents...

Oct 17, 2020 at 2:51 PM | Registered Commentertomo

All I know is that if it was Trumps's son or daughter it would be run every 20 minutes on the left wing media.

Oct 17, 2020 at 11:55 AM TinyCO2

They did that to Trump with stories fabricated by Democrats and given approval by the FBI. Some in the FBI understand justice.

Oct 17, 2020 at 4:30 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Phil Clarke approaches the lorry loads of Biden manure, but smells only roses.

Maybe he's overdoing it with Calvin Klein's Obsession?

Oct 17, 2020 at 6:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

"Thank you Phil. I always thought the repaired computer story had a garum smell about it,

Oct 16, 2020 at 3:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/full-story-behind-hunters-laptops-debunks-latest-russia-conspiracy-theory


“You see what’s happening in everything from Belarus to Poland to Hungary and the rise of totalitarian regimes in the world, and, as well as, this President embraces all the thugs of the world,” said the 77-year-old presidential hopeful at a recent town hall event.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/10/17/budapest-blasts-biden-on-sons-ukrainian-energy-deals-after-attack-hungary-poland/

Oct 17, 2020 at 10:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly